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So Skippy and the Nitwits spend $2 T on HCR, a "stimulus" and then pass a $3.6 T budget...and the GOP gets blamed because they aren't allowing him to continue to run up the credit limits?
In the above article Dan Bimrose argues essentially that Obama has the Republicans right where he wants them.
The left wing spinning this Obama failure is beyond humorous to the points it mind bongling..
So let me see i I get this straight. Obama didnt do his job, Democrats havent passed budgets for years, they went on and raised the debt ceiling, spent all sorts of cash that returned negative returns, and somehow its the Republicans in a corner?
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Originally Posted by JJ_Rousseau
Any resolution will look good for the Democrats.
I can think of LOTS of resolutions which would look horrible. A complete and total default, because Democrats didnt do their job. ANY increase in the debt ceiling, which will allow the GOP to show how irresponsible democrats have been with the purse, since taking over Congress in 2007. In fact, there isnt a scenario that makes the Democrats look good.
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Originally Posted by JJ_Rousseau
Do you agree or disagree and can you argue your point in an intelligent manner?
Translation, agree with Huffington POS, or your stupid.. Thanks, but no thanks..
the potus hasnt offered anything....4 trillion in cuts over 10 years is 400 billion a year....we have a 1.4+ trillion dollar ANNUAL deficit.
we need a 14 trillion (over 10 years) cut
we wont default...that's a globalist lie
just like obamy's ss lie
yep obamy lied again
""cant say if the checks will go out""
meanwhile the TRUTH
The $172 billion in revenues collected over the rest of the month can pay the $29 billion interest charges on the national debt, Social Security benefits ($49 billion), Medicaid and Medicare ($50 billion), active duty military pay ($2.9 billion), Department of Defense vendors ($31.7 billion), IRS refunds ($3.9 billion), and about a quarter of the $12.8 billion in unemployment checks due that month.
but obamy wont touch $128 billion in unspent stimulus funds....go figure that one?????
..we need cuts
so your opinion is since the congress made those mistakes then in the past( of raising the debt ceiling), we should continue to make more mistakes now and in the future???
I dont care who passed it in the past
the debt ceiling in 1996 was 5.5 trillion by 2006(last year the rupubs had control) it was 8.9 trillion........then liberals increased it agin in 2007 to 9.8 trillion......today its 14.? trillion...so "who" did the bigger increases???( looks to the libs)
we need to get spending under control, and if saying we are out of money is the key, then so be it
how much MORE do you wish to BORROW, when it is ENOUGH???? will liberals/democrats/neo-cons be happy when we have 100 trillion in debt...or will it take hitting 200 trillion to make you spenders happy?????
its moronic to raise a debt CEILING (LIMIT)
when you max your credit card out do you cry to the lender and get an increase to your debt/credit limit...or do you tighten your belt, pay down the priciple, and spend within you means????
we have about 2.4 trilion dollars of revenue coming in...yet we are budgeting to spend 3.8 trillion...dont you see a problem???
why would you want to raise the debt ceiling...to make more debt??? why....cut the darn spending...start living within your (our) means
can you argue your point in an intelligent manner?
Can you? So far you've just regurgitated some material from Huffpo.
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Mitch McConnell's plan B approach for "allowing" President Obama to raise the debt ceiling and do the one thing that must be done to avert financial calamity is an indication that the Republican Party has painted themselves in a corner.
It's all a political game and I see this as a trap myself. I know there is lot of conservatives that do not like this idea at all and those voting for it will take some damage however the ball is now in Obama's court.
If he accepts it fast forward to the 2012 elections and what you're going to hear in political ads is "Obama raised the debt limit six gazillion dollars, blah, blah, blah"
If he vetoes he'll be seen as weak by his own supporters.
So Skippy and the Nitwits spend $2 T on HCR, a "stimulus" and then pass a $3.6 T budget...and the GOP gets blamed because they aren't allowing him to continue to run up the credit limits?
Not the GOP, 87 Tnuts who will be pushed aside by the GOP and Dems, to pass a fairly clean Debt Limit bill, hopefully before the posturing causes too much damage to our Economy. It is a box that the GOP allowed themselves to get into. The Dems were certainly willing to let them get into this political mess and are snickering about it.
Another stupid article about whether the GOP or Obama wins.
What about us? When do we win? We seem to get the shaft regardless of whether the left or right in government wins.
The people win when freedom is uplifted and government is limited (especially in taxation and regulation).
With regards to the debt ceiling, the people win when government stops spending beyond our ability to pay. If they can't choose what to cut - then cut all departments on a percentage basis.
Not the GOP, 87 Tnuts who will be pushed aside by the GOP and Dems, to pass a fairly clean Debt Limit bill, hopefully before the posturing causes too much damage to our Economy. It is a box that the GOP allowed themselves to get into. The Dems were certainly willing to let them get into this political mess and are snickering about it.
we dont need to raise the debt limit, we can pay our debts and keep the government running
The $172 billion in revenues collected over the rest of the month can pay the $29 billion interest charges on the national debt, Social Security benefits ($49 billion), Medicaid and Medicare ($50 billion), active duty military pay ($2.9 billion), Department of Defense vendors ($31.7 billion), IRS refunds ($3.9 billion), and about a quarter of the $12.8 billion in unemployment checks due that month.
not to mention the $128 billion in unspent stimulus funds
we need to get spending under control, and if saying we are out of money is the key, then so be it
how much MORE do you wish to BORROW, when it is ENOUGH???? its moronic to raise a debt CEILING (LIMIT)
when you max your credit card out do you cry to the lender and get an increase to your debt/credit limit...or do you tighten your belt, pay down the priciple, and spend within you means????
we have about 2.4 trilion dollars of revenue coming in...yet we are budgeting to spend 3.8 trillion...dont you see a problem???
why would you want to raise the debt ceiling...to make more debt??? why....cut the darn spending...start living within your (our) means
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