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Old 09-15-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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Actually, if we all learned sign language it would be awesome.
It would be a lot quieter and calmer, that's for sure!
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:48 AM
 
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You mean, like, deaf people who use American Sign Language to communicate?
Ah, but you're making my point.
In that situation, that person would be provided a translator, ADA act and all that.
(Or they could WRITE DOWN their words, but for the sake of argument, let's keep the translator.)
That translator would translate signs into ENGLISH.

If the deaf person were signing in any other language, they'd be SOL.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Americas Heritage dates to the 13 colonies & America Revolution.
Refusing to assimilate to the countries language at birth is not heritage. Its more picking a fight to denounce English.
What an unbelievably myopic view.
Very sad really.
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Old 09-15-2011, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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I didn't see italians asking for signs, and a national spelling be and demanding anything. I think what we really have here are people who don't respect ENGLISH and this country and ALL other languages and feel they should get what they want.
Usually, one hears something being asked. And things like "perfer," "confortable" and "poltical," to say nothing of the fact that you don't capitalize your proper nouns, seem to indicate that you're not completely up on your English. Perhaps you should be a little more open-minded about Spanish; it might be a better option (although Spanish-speakers will probably weigh in on your spelling, too!)
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Why none of those languages you mention is being forced on us?

Because they assimilated.
What do you consider 'being forced on us'?
I attended a church in northern NJ that shared space with a Korean congregation. Some of their members had been in this country for twenty-thirty years and spoke NO English. Their entire service was in Korean. All of their printed materials were in Korean. They requested and got a Korean-language sign attached to the English-language sign in front of the church.
Do you consider this assimilation?
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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You mean, like, deaf people who use American Sign Language to communicate?
Not verbal so does not count.
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Actually, if we all learned sign language it would be awesome.
Blind people would probably disagree.

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Ah, but you're making my point.
In that situation, that person would be provided a translator, ADA act and all that.
(Or they could WRITE DOWN their words, but for the sake of argument, let's keep the translator.)
That translator would translate signs into ENGLISH.

If the deaf person were signing in any other language, they'd be SOL.
Ah, but you are making my point for me. It is possible to communicate with people who don't speak English if we get into an accident with them.

PS. not everyone who communicates in ASL can write English.



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Not verbal so does not count.
What does that mean? If they aren't verbal, they can't speak English can they?
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:05 PM
 
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What do you consider 'being forced on us'?
I attended a church in northern NJ that shared space with a Korean congregation. Some of their members had been in this country for twenty-thirty years and spoke NO English. Their entire service was in Korean. All of their printed materials were in Korean. They requested and got a Korean-language sign attached to the English-language sign in front of the church.
Do you consider this assimilation?
Jobs, goods and services.
walk into walmart or kmart one day.
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:06 PM
 
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PS. not everyone who communicates in ASL can write English.

What part of "but in America they should" are you not getting??
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Old 09-15-2011, 12:08 PM
 
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Why none of those languages you mention is being forced on us?

Because they assimilated.
And they assimilated quicker because of geography.
It's not like their home country was right next door.
But, if you look on the US/Canada border (Vermont) - might they
speak French more often than other places in the US....
Mexico border is a given. Same with South
FL and it's proximity to Cuba/Puerto Rico.

But then again ... if you look at places like China Town in San Francisco,
I bet there are folks that live there that never speak English... pretty far away from China, but they
created their own world.

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It is a symptom of the larger problem.

Or the increasing number of jobs which require you speak Spanish...in America!
That's something to take up with employer(s). They
are only looking at the demographics and who they
want to market to. I heard there are a lot of Hispanics
living in this country
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