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Old 07-18-2011, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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But President Obama said 80% of americans approve of his plan.. Surely you arent telling us that he lied, are you?
He said 80% of people agree there has to be shared pains in what gets put together. He was just referring to a poll a while ago that indicated only 20% thought a plan should be all from spending cuts. That's probably the same 20% that think the Repubs are doing a good job.
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:05 PM
 
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He said 80% of people agree there has to be shared pains in what gets put together. He was just referring to a poll a while ago that indicated only 20% thought a plan should be all from spending cuts. That's probably the same 20% that think the Repubs are doing a good job.
Saying 20% think a plan should be all spending cuts, doesnt = 80% support his plan. Continue supporting the President and his lies, you "centrist".. haha, oooh the humor never ends.

80% of the public cant support a plan, which YOU ADMITTED, isnt written..
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:06 PM
 
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He said 80% of people agree there has to be shared pains in what gets put together. He was just referring to a poll a while ago that indicated only 20% thought a plan should be all from spending cuts. That's probably the same 20% that think the Repubs are doing a good job.
Just like obama, you did not read the rest of the poll....there were other questions, which means that 20% was actually 20%...you know, the rest of the poll...and the other questions....
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The C,C & B vote is just a show for the Tnuts. The GOP knows it will go nowhere, but at least they can say "those darn Dems won't let us move our, eliminate social programs agenda forward. So now we have to raise the debt ceiling and go back to the bargaining table, where we will put it to them this time".
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:55 PM
 
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The GOP knows it will go nowhere, but at least they can say "those darn Dems won't let us move our, eliminate social programs agenda forward. So now we have to raise the debt ceiling and go back to the bargaining table, where we will put it to them this time".
Yes, cause all the dems are looking for your approval, right bob...
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Old 07-18-2011, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Yes, cause all the dems are looking for your approval, right bob...
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:25 PM
 
Location: southwestern USA
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Florida Bob is correct----Cap cut and balance is a dog and pony show. The legislation has zero chance in the senate and is strictly a tactic that is being used to have that faction check all the boxes and let their supporters know that they tried all they could try.

Lets end the this comedy-----We realize that the debt needs to be attacked. To prove your point you are willing to have U.S. default and to possibly create a financial catasprohe for America and the world.

There are skeptics who say the fallout from a default is being exaggerated-----you are willing to spin the blackjack wheel on this premise-----come on now.

Raise the debt limit and compromise on a serious debt reduction plan that includes some pain for everybody. I feel that some of hard liners here dont want to compromise on anything that may cause a little pain for the high rollers.

Lets get on the this----America is becoming a laughingstock around the world----Americas credit rating is in jeopardy----with the Eurozone going down the global financial empire does not an American default.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:31 PM
 
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Yep, just like a dem.....when I reference one of your on posts towards me....you seem to be clueless....oh wait...your dem....so I guess it works for you...
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:35 PM
 
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Florida Bob is correct----Cap cut and balance is a dog and pony show. The legislation has zero chance in the senate and is strictly a tactic that is being used to have that faction check all the boxes and let their supporters know that they tried all they could try.

Lets end the this comedy-----We realize that the debt needs to be attacked. To prove your point you are willing to have U.S. default and to possibly create a financial catasprohe for America and the world.

There are skeptics who say the fallout from a default is being exaggerated-----you are willing to spin the blackjack wheel on this premise-----come on now.
ooh please, we've defaulted numerous times in the past and we need to do it again. People need to learn that DEBT comes at a cost
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Raise the debt limit and compromise on a serious debt reduction plan that includes some pain for everybody. I feel that some of hard liners here dont want to compromise on anything that may cause a little pain for the high rollers.

Lets get on the this----America is becoming a laughingstock around the world----Americas credit rating is in jeopardy----with the Eurozone going down the global financial empire does not an American default.
You cant compromise on a serious debt reduction plan until you address the fact that SPENDING is the problem, NOT a lack of revenues. When the economy improves, revenues will increase naturally, but spending WILL NOT decrease.. This needs addressed, and the time for this is far overdue.
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Old 07-18-2011, 08:36 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Obama's main flaw is that he is failing to show to the House and to the people that there is INDEED a REVENUE PROBLEM (and not only a SPENDING problem).

Tax revenues as % of GDP are at historic lows.
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