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Old 11-13-2014, 09:35 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Poverty and homelessness are not about bad luck. Most available data on the homeless gives a percentage of 70% of the homeless having a serious drug and/or alcohol addiction or mental illness. Given the number of homeless (per HUD stats) is ~650k, that means that the percent of homeless that are not addicts or mentally ill is around 195,000 people. We'll call them the "unlucky." Of a total population of 330 million Americans, that amounts to a 6 in 10,000 "chance" that one would find themselves homeless for something other than drug addiction or mental illness. If "luck" is the reason for homelessness then, that means 9,994 people in 10,000 are lucky. Sorry, but 99.94% of a population is not one way, and 0.06% of that same population is another way based on a random distribution of a cosmic force known as luck.

Poverty and homeless for anyone other than the severely mentally ill (who are indeed unfortunate, no doubt) is a straight choice. Not one big, chose_one_day_for_life_to_suck type of choice, but the result of hundreds, maybe thousands of little choices that were all steps down the wrong road.

Every single one of those tent city people CHOOSES to remain homeless and poor. We have too many aid programs in existence, public and private, for there to be any other excuse.
And who do you suppose puts out all that "data"!

Anyone who would CHOOSE to live like that would have to be a MENTAL case,and anyone who believes otherwise is a complete IMBECILE!
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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And who do you suppose puts out all that "data"!

Anyone who would CHOOSE to live like that would have to be a MENTAL case,and anyone who believes otherwise is a complete IMBECILE!
Tons of data out there and not from just one source.

Chronic poverty and homlessness are not about luck. It's individual behavior and choice. If you are not mentally ill and are homeless, it's because you make a choice every day to be that way.
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Old 11-13-2014, 09:52 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Tons of data out there and not from just one source.

Chronic poverty and homlessness are not about luck. It's individual behavior and choice. If you are not mentally ill and are homeless, it's because you make a choice every day to be that way.
WOW,just,WOW!
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:59 AM
 
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WOW,just,WOW!
Keep coddling people who choose to be homeless, and they'll keep taking your charity in lieu of the work of improving their life. Just keep your misguided intentions away from my wallet, because I know the truth that you seem to be incapable of accepting.
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Old 11-13-2014, 03:36 PM
 
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Tons of data out there and not from just one source.

Chronic poverty and homlessness are not about luck. It's individual behavior and choice. If you are not mentally ill and are homeless, it's because you make a choice every day to be that way.

If you're unskilled and unemployed how are you choosing to be homeless? It's not as if they can just walk right into a job if they so choose; the temp agencies have no use for the unskilled.
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Old 11-13-2014, 03:37 PM
 
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Keep coddling people who choose to be homeless, and they'll keep taking your charity in lieu of the work of improving their life. Just keep your misguided intentions away from my wallet, because I know the truth that you seem to be incapable of accepting.

The homeless and employed people I know do not take charity.
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Old 11-13-2014, 03:52 PM
 
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The media in the form of the area newspaper reported on the Lakewood, NJ, Tent City just about every week for years, deaths and controversies included. Just saying.

Is that a daily newspaper or a weekly newspaper? There are a lot of hyper-local weekly papers that eat up stuff like this because there just isn't enough substantive local news to fill even a tiny newspaper. (You know, those small-format papers that print police logs of things like DUI arrests and houses being egged and TP'd around Halloween.)

When I was in high school a friend sent me a clipping from the Ridgewood weekly paper about someone we knew who had run off with an older (30s) guy and they were caught on the Shore. That would never make the NYT or any serious daily newspaper.
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Old 11-15-2014, 04:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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simple solution.....institutionalize them....those that are mentally ill (78% of them)

others DO choose to be homeless:
and homeless doesnt always mean poor either

my last supervisor, spent his last 5 years being homeless, with a full time GOVERNMENT job..he slept in the shop, used the breakroom for meals and used the lockerroom showers......why... because he was 5 years away from his 55/30 and was putting nearly 100% into his TSP(401k) and didnt want to WASTE money with rent/mortgage and utilities etc..he is now retired in (a federal double pension) to Puerto rico.

oh wait..the freaking liberals made it so all the mental cases are walking the streets back in the 70's-80's.....all because the institutions were 'inhuman'



another disaster caused by the liberals

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Old 11-15-2014, 07:26 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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simple solution.....institutionalize them....those that are mentally ill (78% of them)

others DO choose to be homeless:
and homeless doesnt always mean poor either

my last supervisor, spent his last 5 years being homeless, with a full time GOVERNMENT job..he slept in the shop, used the breakroom for meals and used the lockerroom showers......why... because he was 5 years away from his 55/30 and was putting nearly 100% into his TSP(401k) and didnt want to WASTE money with rent/mortgage and utilities etc..he is now retired in (a federal double pension) to Puerto rico.

oh wait..the freaking liberals made it so all the mental cases are walking the streets back in the 70's-80's.....all because the institutions were 'inhuman'



another disaster caused by the liberals
But your supervisor had it EASY, a warm and probably cooled place to sleep, plus even showers,not at all the same environment!


I do agree that all mentally ill should be institutionalized if we could be sure that no 'Pyschos' ran or worked at those places which so often happened before. Kind of impossible to guarantee when the whole mental health industry is a scam!

IMO there isn't/and never was, a person alive who can honestly understand the human brain and diagnose mental illness! What about all the bi-polars,and manic- depressives,should they all be put away?

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Old 11-18-2014, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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That supervisor was not homeless. He lived at his workplace for free. That was smart.

Homeless folks are just that. They have no place to eat, sleep, or SSS. That is a very tough way to live. I was lucky, smart and tolerant enough to avoid that fate.
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