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Old 08-08-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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And what percentage of the people whose rights would be violated by this clearly prejudicial policy would that be?

Do you know?
I think not.
Nor do I care. 0.01% of people have the same rights as 50% of people.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:36 PM
 
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Nor do I care. 0.01% of people have the same rights as 50% of people.
Well that's the problem, because our system tends to err on the side of granting rights instead of restricting them.

I do have to wonder about people who would prefer it otherwise.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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Well that's the problem, because our system tends to err on the side of granting rights instead of restricting them.

I do have to wonder about people who would prefer it otherwise.
Sorry I don't quite understand what you mean. My point is that it's either a right, in which case it applies to everyone, or it's not a right.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Here is a tip about Colorado. Southern Colorado has been populated by Spanish descendents since the 1840s. I am talking about the hispanic communities of the San Luis Valley near Alamosa. Part of the ancient hispanic culture of N. New Mexico and S. Colorado. A great element of our country, and they can get things in Spanish if it helps.

By the way, Interior Secretary Salazar hails from that culture, and they are quite moderate on environmental issues. They have been there several hundred years. God's Country. Truly.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:45 PM
 
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To become a naturalized citizen, by federal law, "You will also take an English and Civics test unless you qualify for an exemption or waiver."

So why are we going to continue spending money we do not have?

How will these voters be able to listen to, read and comprehend the issues which are DEBATED in ENGLISH?
Constitutional Topic: Official Language - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:46 PM
 
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Sorry I don't quite understand what you mean. My point is that it's either a right, in which case it applies to everyone, or it's not a right.
The point is, there is no effective way to distinguish between those people who you seem to dislike and those who just haven't (or can't) learn English well enough to make informed voting choices.

You would throw the baby out with the bathwater. That's just not how we handle civil rights in the USA.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:50 PM
 
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The point is, there is no effective way to distinguish between those people who you seem to dislike and those who just haven't (or can't) learn English well enough to make informed voting choices.
Well that is true.

I'm just saying that if this is a right, it should apply across the board, Spanish or Finnish. I personally would not support providing election materials in any and all languages, but it has to be all or none IMO.
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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If that is the case. I want my election material in sign language, ebonics & British English
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:56 PM
 
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If that is the case. I want my election material in sign language, ebonics & British English
The last two aren't languages.

As for sign languages, that was a very poor choice for an example on your part.

I guess this means that the deaf and blind don't get to vote in your version of America eh?

Smooth move, Ex-Lax.

I guess that you've never heard of the Americans with Disabilities Act?
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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To become a naturalized citizen, by federal law, "You will also take an English and Civics test unless you qualify for an exemption or waiver."

So why are we going to continue spending money we do not have?

How will these voters be able to listen to, read and comprehend the issues which are DEBATED in ENGLISH?
Colorado, what language is that?
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