Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
How many times now have you posted this stupid statement about seceding? It was meant tongue in cheek, only is being brought up by the true Perry haters and he never entertained the idea. Go back and read what he said...
Redshadow, he didn't talk about seceding: he simply said, when Texas joined the union they kept the right to sucede if they wanted and they still could. He wasn't seriously thinking of doing it. Only someone who has an axe to grind would even bring this up.
Nita
And that's the problem w/ Mr. Good hair. Texas DID NOT keep the right to secede when it joined the Republic, NOR when it re-joined after the civil war. TEXAS NEVER HAD THE RIGHT OR OPTION TO SECEDE. That's a complete bold faced lie, that Perry and anyone else who repeats it, is telling.
Texas in fact initially joined the Union mainly because Texas was broke and had huge debts that would be taken on by the United States, in exchange for it's territory that now constitutes Oklahoma, Colorado, Kansas and Wyoming in addition to REPAYING the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT the monies that were paid on it's behalf. A fact that Texas never did.
Mr. Perry should really be careful when attempting to bring up Texas history. There are actually some of us who know what the truth and it's history really are.
As for Rick Perry. He talked about secession, and now he is running for president. Do you find that to be odd? I don't. As long as he is wanting to return this nation into the constitutional republic that it began, I am all for it. But more likely than not, he will continue the warmongering social conservative agenda, and will probably have very little respect for the states' rights that he championed during his talks of secession.
Are you referring to this?
"There's a lot of different scenarios," Perry said. "We've got a great union. There's absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that. But Texas is a very unique place, and we're a pretty independent lot to boot."
And that's the problem w/ Mr. Good hair. Texas DID NOT keep the right to secede when it joined the Republic, NOR when it re-joined after the civil war. TEXAS NEVER HAD THE RIGHT OR OPTION TO SECEDE. That's a complete bold faced lie, that Perry and anyone else who repeats it, is telling.
.
I can't find any place where Perry said Texas could secede. Do you have a direct quote.
I can't find any place where Perry said Texas could secede. Do you have a direct quote.
Read the quote and to whom I was responding to. Never mind I know that's asking to much:
Quote:
Redshadow, he didn't talk about seceding: he simply said, when Texas joined the union they kept the right to sucede if they wanted and they still could. He wasn't seriously thinking of doing it. Only someone who has an axe to grind would even bring this up.
Nita
But I've got something better than a direct quote. I've got Mr. Good-hair scumbag on video saying it:
Quote:
"Texas is a unique place. When we came into the union in 1845, one of the issues was that we would be able to leave if we decided to do that," Perry said.
Texas #1 in highest percentage of people earning MINIMUM WAGE with an 8.2% UNEMPLOYMENT RATE. Nice statistics to brag about! A $27 billion short-fall, paid by 50,000 teachers and drastic cuts in healthcare, so his oil buddies can keep their record profits.
Got any facts to back up your opinions?
And last time I checked 8.2% was a lot less than the National rate......
I really get tired of seeing statistics like this. They look at states as if they are all exactly the same time.
I mean, take California as an example. According to the numbers, California has created 10% of the jobs in 2011. Wyoming has only created .5% of the jobs in 2011. But if you compare by population, California's 86,650 jobs created is only a .23% job creation rate vs its population. Wyoming's 4,050 jobs represents a .75% job creation rate vs its population.
In that sense, Wyoming is doing three times better at creating jobs than California. If you actually look at Texas in 2011, its 114,750 jobs created is only a .46% job creation rate vs its population, which is crap compared even to its neighbor to the north Oklahoma. Whose 26,700 jobs created is about a .73% increase in jobs in the state this year alone. For 2011, Massachusetts actually has a higher job growth rate than Texas, with a .537% increase. And if you look at North Dakota, its job increases are a full 1.26% increase, which is almost three times the rate of Texes year.
Even if you pull the numbers for both 2010 and 2011. Texas added about 1.42% jobs relative to its population. North Dakota is up 3.7% jobs relative to their population since 2010.
I think the chart on the web site is quite clear and not misleading at all. It says Texas had 8.27% of the workforce beginning in 2010 but added 19% of the new jobs.
Let's check your math using population rather than workforce as you suggest.
Texas added 350,650 jobs in 2010 and 2011 with a population of 24,304,000. That's 14.47 jobs per thousand residents.
OK added 41200 jobs in 2010 and 2011 with a population of 3,644,000. That's 11.31 jobs per thousand residents.
CA added 181,750 jobs in 2010 and 2011 with a population of 36,580,000. That's 4.97 jobs per thousand residents.
And last time I checked 8.2% was a lot less than the National rate......
So you are saying that 8.2% is something to applaud.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
