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Old 08-17-2011, 08:44 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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You need food to live so I can support some form of government aid like food stamps. Having children is not a necessity. If the poor stopped having kids in this country, poverty would be mostly eliminated in one to two generations.
Wait...if they're complaining about child care costs, that implies that they're trying to use it...which implies that they're....working!


Logic...pass it on.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:47 PM
 
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Wait...if they're complaining about child care costs, that implies that they're trying to use it...which implies that they're....working!


Logic...pass it on.
If raising kids is too expensive, then don't have kids.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:51 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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If raising kids is too expensive, then don't have kids.
Simplistic response.

On the one hand you vilify the poor as lazy, drug addicted welfare queens, but when a poor person is actually working and trying to do something with his life, you vilify them anyway.

If a single mother is looking for affordable day care, that says that, while she made bad choices in the past, she's trying to remedy that by working, hence her search for day care. So I'm not going to attack her while she's already down and trying to get better.

I think you just hate poor people period, whether they work or not. Guess some people need to post on these forums to make themselves feel like they're better than others.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:51 PM
 
Location: California
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People have kids. I'm kind of surprised some of you are too stupid to know that.

However, multiple children when you are already in the poor house is just as stupid.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:55 PM
 
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People have kids. I'm kind of surprised some of you are too stupid to know that.

However, multiple children when you are already in the poor house is just as stupid.
My problem is just with the poor having kids because they are perpetuating poverty in this country.
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:57 PM
 
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Yup. Even if they work, apparently. So much for the "I don't hate the working poor" BS
Just waiting to hear "I don't hate the poor, just their lifestyle, culture, and values, hate the sin, not the sinner"
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Old 08-17-2011, 08:58 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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My problem is just with the poor having kids because they are perpetuating poverty in this country.
But you're not drawing a distinction between "working poor" and "lazy poor" You do realize some poor people work and struggle, right? Those are the ones who are looking for affordable child care.

Scenario: A single mother is trying to make her life better, but can't afford child care and basic necessities while trying to work forty hours (which is really hard in this economy) Would you begrudge this woman and say "Because you made a bad choice once, you don't deserve any help whatsoever. Helping someone get affordable child care is not enabling, and it's not a hand out like welfare checks are. It's a hand up.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:02 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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What a sweeping condemnation of people based on your personal bias. Ridiculous assertion on your part IMO.
By your posts, you shall know them. But, to your credit, pommysmommy, I've think I've read some posts by you that are more sympathetic to poor people. Why most conservatives don't draw a distinction between working and lazy poor is beyond me.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:29 PM
 
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They proably think it shuld be under minium wage positions or free.
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Old 08-17-2011, 09:37 PM
 
Location: East Chicago, IN
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around the "don't have kids" thing. Who the **** PLANS kids? Nobody I know. Everytime you bang, there is the chance for kids, birth control or not.
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