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Old 08-18-2011, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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The OP didn't say anything about Rick Perry, so why are you conservatives accusing him/her of it? The chart could actually be construed as good news for Rick Perry fans on some level. The information in the link has not been debunked but has certainly been decried as an epic fail. In what way? The population increase in Texas has exceeded its job growth. If Texas were in the middle of the states it would mean its job creation matches its population increase. That would be something to celebrate in the middle of a recession. However, Texas is LAST in that regard. Is it a question of Texas being overwhelmed by growth or simply bad at creating jobs for its people?
Then why do people keep moving here
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Old 08-18-2011, 10:37 AM
 
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The OP didn't say anything about Rick Perry, so why are you conservatives accusing him/her of it? The chart could actually be construed as good news for Rick Perry fans on some level. The information in the link has not been debunked but has certainly been decried as an epic fail. In what way? The population increase in Texas has exceeded its job growth. If Texas were in the middle of the states it would mean its job creation matches its population increase. That would be something to celebrate in the middle of a recession. However, Texas is LAST in that regard. Is it a question of Texas being overwhelmed by growth or simply bad at creating jobs for its people? The other facts about the high levels of poverty there and the prevalence of minimum wage jobs are not encouraging.

Why the hell do you conservatives so readily turn to insults? And from an opening post that had no discernible political bias, or is the finding of a contrary analysis not something worth discussing?
Did you even click the link? The entire piece IS about Perry and a rebuttal to his job claims. It is a propaganda piece, a garbage political attack, and you are whining about civility? Oh please, read the information before you comment next time.
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Old 08-18-2011, 10:38 AM
 
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Opportuntiy and a reasonable vost of living and not being piled under increasing reguation. Its alos why it how has the most fortune 500 companies.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:28 AM
 
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So I guess it's pretty clear that Perry has now become the main point of fear for liberals.
Oh, it's not just liberals. Plenty of conservatives in Texas are equally upset with Perry and are also fearful of what he's doing to our state.

Come up with a viable candidate that actually has a shot at beating Obama, and liberals might become fearful. Right now, you don't have one.
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Old 08-18-2011, 11:41 AM
 
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Liberals have nothing to run on. It's going to take Obama a miracle to win re-election. He's not going to win at all, and if whoever is candidate on the GOP side focuses only on the economy during the debates and brush aside everything else, Obama will be a one-termer no matter what Media Matters, Think Progress, Bill Maher, or Jon Stewart says. I'm predicting an electoral map that's gonna look like a repeat of 2004.
If Perry runs, Obama will be able to clearly delineate where Texas has failed. We have failed in some areas. The things we love to make fun about California for are now here. We are in a huge deficit. Record numbers of people are applying for food stamps. We have a huge division between the Hispanic and Anglo population, just to name a few. Remember, before Proposition 187, California was not a blue state. Conservatives like to blame wealthy white limo type liberals for turning California blue, but conservatives who know better realize it was the alienation of Hispanics by Republicans in California.

Don't underestimate the amount of people who are willing to vote against social conservatism even if it means taxes will get up. Right now, all you have running against Obama is social conservatism. I suppose you could argue Romney isn't a social conservative, but he is a Mormon.

Finally, why do Republicans believe they have a shot at Obama when they are even less popular than he is?
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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BMW, how about some commentary instead of the post and run.



No more retarded than people who assert that Texas' growth has to do with conservative policies over the natural resource boom there. The state has pretty horrible stats on levels of poverty, etc. I'm not sure I'd hold them up as the beacon.
Is there a chance that the Texas numbers about poverty could be determined by throwing in all the illegal aliens as if they were citizens? I think there sure could.
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Where was Michigan in employment levels when this count began? It seems that 2009 would have been just right. Are any of those jobs counted in Michigan of the low pay variety?

You can go ahead and answer me since I asked you questions and you told AUM that you answer questions.
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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The numbers come from the bureau of labor statistics and the details can be read by clicking the link, so I don't get people saying...where did you get that information.
But you got it from Think Progress and I have some trouble thinking that they don't allow some skewing of numbers in order to prove the progressive way is the only way. Old Spooky Dude Soros is heavily involved with that bunch, but then he wouldn't try to lie a tiny bit like Limbaugh and Hannity.
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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We also got lots of transplants from other states. Middle class families that just can't afford to live elsewhere anymore and those looking for jobs.
Oh and almost every layed off teacher has moved to Texas as well.
My wife has been replaced by a laid off teacher from Texas. They do have some of them, don't they? BTW my wife retired, she didn't get fired.
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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That's one of the points us anti-Perry Texans have been trying to make. We have known FOR YEARS that many people have been moving here. We have known FOR YEARS that Mexicans would migrate to Texas as the violence gets worse.

What have we done about it here? Well, we've lowered taxes to the point where we have no money, are in a deficit and have had to cut funding from education and other essential services. Meanwhile, everywhere south of Corpus is getting poorer and poorer.

Heck, if we are going to make the "common sense" tells you argument, I may as well state that common sense tells you Texas's economy is still dependent on oil, and without it, we are pretty much toast.
And sure as hell, Obama and his buddies do want to stop the production of oil.

I keep wondering what all the large machines coming up the highway in my town from the south had as their point of origin. Mostly Texas, of course, because none of them come from Oklahoma. That is manufacturing, I think.
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