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Old 08-22-2011, 03:24 PM
 
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A one-hit wonder that lasted for over twenty years.
Look where most of that income and wealth went.

Also, look at where wages have gone. Real, adjusted for inflation wages.

(Hint: they haven't gone up.)
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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...and you think that your being apprehensive about watching her video and avoiding the risk of getting real data and facts comes as a surprise? LMAO
Would you care what Limbaugh had to say about Clinton?
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:29 PM
 
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other then being another senseless premise, do you have a point?

P.S. I hope EVERY company shuts down for 6 months. NO PAY for you and all the other business haters.
Lets make it two years instead.

Every job gone, plus government welfare.

Guess what would happen?

It would be rough at first.

People would be forced to be more self reliant and get involved in a different pattern of living and would no longer be dependent on others for their living, government or otherwise.

You would have millions of illegal and legal immigrants rushing for the border.

When the jobs came back, the wages offered would be higher because of the supply and demand equation. You would have many that would be in a new pattern of self sufficiency \ that would be content with it and continue on with it.

That sounds like a win win scenario to me.
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Your chart shows that Bush's biggest deficit was just over $400 billion, wow, how we long for those days now, even as bad as they were.

And here's 0bama's chart from your link: (It's even cutting 0bama some real slack here)

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Old 08-22-2011, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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This:



Note the last GOP budget in the chart.
If I see that graph one more time... ... You do realize its meaningless without an explanation? I'm not gonna bite. Neither war is on that chart are they. That's because they were paid for with trillions borrowed from China. I'll bet there is plenty else that isn't on there either. So much for transparency. Its total and utter BS. But its all you have, isn't it. So, sadly, I'm going to see that chart a LOT more in the coming months. A lot more. Aren't I.

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Old 08-22-2011, 05:36 PM
 
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Look where most of that income and wealth went.

Also, look at where wages have gone. Real, adjusted for inflation wages.

(Hint: they haven't gone up.)
Not since 2000...
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:45 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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That's basically justifying the hiring of illegals...
It is??? How so? It's illegal!
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:58 PM
 
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Cool story, man. Really pertinent stuff here.
PM me...I let you run a 1/2 million dollar rig.
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:06 PM
 
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It is??? How so? It's illegal!

So that means hiring illegals isn't happening?...
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Old 08-22-2011, 07:16 PM
 
Location: it depends
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............I also recognize the fact that the wealthy rely on labor to make their money.......
This sentiment appears about a million times in C-D forums, so we ought to all take a moment to understand the nature of the transaction.

A worker agrees to a wage, shows up to work, and gets a check on payday. Presumably, he is putting his time to its highest and best use, or else he would not show up. Presumably, the employer values the labor more than the cost of the pay and the workers comp and the payroll tax and the unemployment insurance and all the rest.

On payday, they are even. Each party got what they wanted; each must believe that the transaction was worthwhile or it would not have happened. In my state, the employer is free to stop the arrangement at any time; certainly the employee has that right everywhere in the US.

Nobody is beating anybody out of anything. To imply otherwise is to demean the freedom each us possesses, to unlock the highest fraction of our own potential and to sell that effort to the highest bidder or put it to work in an enterprise of our own.
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