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Old 08-26-2011, 11:07 AM
 
Location: I'm around here someplace :)
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I think it's a matter of whether or not people "practice what they preach."
I've known atheists who are fine, decent human beings-- and those who were not; I've known Christians who are fine, decent human beings-- and those who were not. As for the latter-- an amazing # of hypocrites who seem to truly believe their concept of being 'saved' relieves them of the responsibility to live/behave as decent human beings.
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:08 AM
 
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I am sorry, I thought you knew what you were talking about.
Translated to truth, " I have no answer."

I didn't think you would....
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:11 AM
 
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Eternal fire and Damnation.
Tell me, does the snake handling come before or after the speaking in tongues???
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:15 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Translated to truth, " I have no answer."

I didn't think you would....
Like I said, an old saying. I can say, I have been in a life-death situation while I was in the service, and you were not. I guess you can't disprove it either.

So, was you Grandfather a liar too?
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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Tell me, does the snake handling come before or after the speaking in tongues???
Don't know anything abiout snakehandling. Speaking in tongues is interesting.

Hey, if you are right, I lose nothing.

If you are wrong, you burn forever.

Time will tell.
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Toledo
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Don't know anything abiout snakehandling. Speaking in tongues is interesting.

Hey, if you are right, I lose nothing.

If you are wrong, you burn forever.

Time will tell.
I always find it funny when Christians say stuff like this. What makes you think that non-Christians want to spend an eternity alongside a bunch of bible thumpers.

I'd rather take the pit of fire!
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Lawrenceville, Virginia
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Well anyone can claim to be whatever but christianity in particular is more like a way of life than a religion. This means you can claim yourself as one but you aren't until you act like one. A lot of inmates also become converted while in prison. I personally don't consider figures in things like this because what people tell you is often different from the actual fact. There are many "men of God" who will still spend eternity in hell but they still claim christianity. What can you say about that?
Even if it is true that 75% of christians are in prison, it is clearly evident that the doctrine of christianity forbids violating the law, So what's the issue? The drawback about them (christians) is that many of them exaggerate on how holy they are highly criticizing other religions when they themselves are bad. The bible even says that one should examine oneself before pointing fingers.
But I think the main confusing thing is The people who call themselves christians. Are they really christians?
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Old 08-26-2011, 02:31 PM
 
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Well anyone can claim to be whatever but christianity in particular is more like a way of life than a religion. This means you can claim yourself as one but you aren't until you act like one. A lot of inmates also become converted while in prison. I personally don't consider figures in things like this because what people tell you is often different from the actual fact. There are many "men of God" who will still spend eternity in hell but they still claim christianity. What can you say about that?
Even if it is true that 75% of christians are in prison, it is clearly evident that the doctrine of christianity forbids violating the law, So what's the issue? The drawback about them (christians) is that many of them exaggerate on how holy they are highly criticizing other religions when they themselves are bad. The bible even says that one should examine oneself before pointing fingers.
But I think the main confusing thing is The people who call themselves christians. Are they really christians?
I think this is a cop out. Where the priests and Bishops who conducted the inquisition "real" Christians? Clearly they were. Your entire argument I think is premised on the notion that real Christians do not break the law, or are otherwise without sin. And that is just nonsense.
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Old 08-26-2011, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Well anyone can claim to be whatever but christianity in particular is more like a way of life than a religion. This means you can claim yourself as one but you aren't until you act like one. A lot of inmates also become converted while in prison. I personally don't consider figures in things like this because what people tell you is often different from the actual fact. There are many "men of God" who will still spend eternity in hell but they still claim christianity. What can you say about that?
Even if it is true that 75% of christians are in prison, it is clearly evident that the doctrine of christianity forbids violating the law, So what's the issue? The drawback about them (christians) is that many of them exaggerate on how holy they are highly criticizing other religions when they themselves are bad. The bible even says that one should examine oneself before pointing fingers.
But I think the main confusing thing is The people who call themselves christians. Are they really christians?
Well, how do you know?

There is no litmus test to tell a good Christian, a Christian that's working on it, or some one that's just paying lip service (like any idea). You can't even tell if a pastor of a major local church claiming to be holy, and if you spoke out against him you were against god, was secretly snorting meth off a gay prostitute. Many people followed him as a shining light example of a good Christian, so if real beleivers can't tell...how is anyone supposed to know a "real" Christian?

My problem is people like Rand Paul and Sarah Palin telling the world that if everyone was Christian, there would be no need for laws or government (http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/05/20/rand-paul-and-sarah-palin-we-wouldnt-need-gov-if-everyone-were-christian/ - broken link). Well, if you can't tell who is a "real" Christian....how can you really say that?

Especially with nuts saying all Atheists are "immoral, unethical, and criminal". Personally I think it is more ethical to make the choice to adhere to morals, then to do so because of a threat of eternal torment from a giant father figure. Doubly so that the Bible say that if you ask for forgiveness god will give it to you...brushing over even horrendous sins because, well you are sorry I guess.
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Old 08-26-2011, 06:14 PM
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How many athiests convert when they go prison?
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