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Old 09-12-2011, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Hilarious!!

Hypocritical!!

And CAUGHT, once again.

Perry and the Ponzis - Stanley Kurtz - National Review Online

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In any case, it’s certain that Perry’s Ponzi-scheme claim is in no way original. Not only have a raft of conservatives called Social Security a Ponzi scheme over the years, quite a few very respectable liberals have done so as well. It is clearly wrong either to treat the Ponzi-scheme analogy as unprecedented or to rule it altogether out of legitimate public debate.
Oh, please DO read the examples of prominent liberals using the same term to describe what we SHOULD all know about SS.

There IS no money, just a bunch of IOUs. There IS a crisis with the program, which is underfunded by TENS OF TRILLIONS of dollars.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:22 PM
 
Location: The Triad
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...crisis with the program
...a bunch of IOUs.
Focus on those two ideas for a little while.
Then see what you come up with as the resolution.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:26 PM
 
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Paying one person with the money from another and telling the other folks their investment is safe. Yep Bernie is in jail for doing it.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:28 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Stealing from Peter with a boot on his throat, to give to Paul for his vote to do it again.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Regardless, Florida will be the undoing of Perry because people there like social security.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Riverside
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Hilarious!!

Hypocritical!!

And CAUGHT, once again.

Perry and the Ponzis - Stanley Kurtz - National Review Online



Oh, please DO read the examples of prominent liberals using the same term to describe what we SHOULD all know about SS.

There IS no money, just a bunch of IOUs. There IS a crisis with the program, which is underfunded by TENS OF TRILLIONS of dollars.
You Wingers stick with that argument, and with Perry, and we'll all see you at Obama's second inaugural
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:42 PM
 
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Good find! My mom and dad used to call it check floating.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Good find! My mom and dad used to call it check floating.
But now your mom and dad call it their social security check the third of every month.
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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I don't get what the big deal is about Perry saying that. Heck, I thought that was one of the best things he said. It's TRUE! It's a mandatory Ponzi scheme. That's why I think it's so odd that people are freaking out because he actually told the truth. I thought that's what we wanted our politicians to do?
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Old 09-12-2011, 05:53 PM
 
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Fix the Ponzi scheme:
1- apply SS "tax" to all income not just the 1st $108k
2- means test SS

re: the latter, SS is meant as a social safety net. some net! prvt business saw it as a way to slowly do away with pensions, matching contributions, or any type of retirement program...

just do what "we" used to...save on your own and when that fails you, move back in with the kids. heck they are moving back in with us already cuz of the economy so that's one issue we don't have to worry about. now if we could only start saving and not have an economy driven solely by consumption
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