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Under Wisconsin's new law to make voting harder, you have to present a valid photo ID at the polling place. One acceptable form comes from the Division of Motor Vehicles. The IDs normally cost $28, but you can get one for free -- just don't expect anyone at the DMV to tell you that.
The Madison Capital Times today posts a memo from a Wisconsin Department of Transportation executive directing employees not to offer the ID for free:
While you should certainly help customers who come in asking for a free ID to check the appropriate box, you should refrain from offering the free version to customers who do not ask for it.
Steve Krieser, the memo's author, previously worked as a Republican chief of staff in the state legislature. Mr. Krieser tells the Cap-Times that the DMV plans to post signs telling people how to ask for free IDs. "He says the signs are 'in the design phase' and could not give a date when they would be placed in DMV offices," the Cap-Times reports.
Last month, Governor Scott Walker's administration gave up on a plan to close some DMV locations after lawmakers complained that they were mostly in Democratic districts.
the fact is you need an ID for almost everything today..this does NOT suppress the vote in the slightest
that is the case for many things
they want to GET money..so while it may be AVAILABLE for free, they wont advertize it
it is the same everywhere, dealing with many things
Back in April, in a story that did not receive the attention it deserved, a Tunica County, Miss., jury found Lessadolla Sowers, who have been identified as a member of the executive committee of the county’s NAACP chapter, guilty of 10 counts of fraudulently casting absentee ballots in the name of others.
What good is that if you don't have the money to get the required birth certificate copy? It's not as if you can walk in and voila walk out with free ID.
Ah yes, the imaginary poor person who can't even afford shoes on his feet, much less the $20 fee for a copy of their birth certificate.
What good is that if you don't have the money to get the required birth certificate copy? It's not as if you can walk in and voila walk out with free ID.
well I guess you dont get a liciense, or enroll in school, or get a library card...or get a job...or register for selective service..or a passport...etc
the states that provide it for 'free' (it has to be paid from somewhere) get the money from TAXES
the states with out income tax charge a FEE
fact is you NEED to PROVE who you are, if you are ELIGIBLE to vote, and that you live with in that DISTRICT for which you are voting
we need the id laws
we need a national id or standard
There is already a national standard enacted by Congress - H.R. 1268 (109th Session of Congress) REAL ID Act of 2005, Public Law 109-13, enacted May 11, 2005.
Despite the criticism over this law, Congress does indeed have the authority to enact such a law.
Quote:
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Source: Article IV, Section 1 of the US Constitution
It should be noted, however, that while IDs may be required for various activities, such as voting, nobody in the US is required to have ID on them, or present ID on demand. So sayeth the Supreme Court.
I would agree with the notion of a Poll tax IF the voter were asked just before they were due to vote to pay the piper. But this is not the case. The voter is asked to prove who they are. I'm still not understanding the issue, honestly. This should be the case when voting or applying for any type of government assistance.
With that said, since these states are making it LAW that folks need to provide ID, they need to ensure that enforcing this rule is not seen as a poll tax. Before months before any election, they need to send out literature with instructions and assistance so that every voter is able to obtain the required identification either at cost or free.
"We have no idea what the motive behind it is," she said. "It's just overwhelming to us."
It's very simple and there is a simple fix.
The Obama campaign paid ACORN $800,000 for a voter registration campaign. The simple idea is that people can't vote for your candidate if they're not registered to vote.
Now ACORN - being community organizers and all that - went into the neighborhoods and offered short-term gigs for people to go around and get people to register to vote.
This tends to attract the unemployed, the undisciplined, the slackers, and those who like the opportunity to make money without having a boss looking over their shoulder.
The really BIG problem comes when people are offered a bonus for signing up a greater number of people. For example you might send people out for three hours at a time (say three mornings or three afternoons) and pay them X dollars per hour...but if they sign up more than say 20 people, they get an extra two dollars for every additional completed form they bring back.
80 percent of the workers do an honest shift's work and return with an appropriate number of forms. 20 percent of the workers fake it, copy names out of the phone book, make up names and addresses, and turn in a hunch of fraudulent forms...but since the fake forms will probably be detected later (i.e. not right now), they walk out the door with cash the same day.
And of course the workers turning in the most forms are generally the most likely to be turning in fake forms.
Don't allow per-voter (per-signature) payment!!!!! It's really a huge problem.
If I had money to throw at a voter registration drive, I would be inclined to pay a temp agency to do the hiring because they're in the hiring business and I'd trust them to do a decent job of rejecting tbe bad apples (workers).
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