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View Poll Results: Are you with or against the Palestinians to declare their own state?
Against 59 47.20%
With 66 52.80%
Voters: 125. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-20-2011, 10:23 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Depends on the movement. I live in the U.S....what happens here is my business. Israel is not my country.
You have previously stated that what happens in other states and regions isn't your business I do believe.

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I'll support an independence movement anywhere else in the world. Why would i care?
Actually I would go with it isn't my business....I don't care if group x are independent or not...

And as a nation,I wish the USA would use this statement in all its dealings around the world.

The USA supports the idea of democracy and freedom for all people.

No aid,no interference,no military support,just a "Good luck and hope it works out for you."
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:25 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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So can the Palestinians. They can use pretty much the same formula. The difference might be that you want to get in their way whereas you would have been "a patriot" fighting for an Israeli cause several decades ago.
No I am fine with them fighting for their independence.

I am also fine with them being destroyed utterly.

It isn't a concern of mine really.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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Israelis? I think Fox News had a clip on them.
How did you identify them as Israelis?
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Are you with or against the Palestinians to declare their own state?
Is that how it works? People inside the borders of another country simply declare they want some land, then some other countries get to vote if they can have it, and if the vote passes... they get it?
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:33 AM
 
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You have previously stated that what happens in other states and regions isn't your business I do believe.
This was my original statement:

"I see no reasons why an American would be opposed to ANYONE declaring a state of their own. That's not our business. What the Palestinians do is up to the Palestinians, and i see no reason why i shouldn't recognize their state just like i recognize Spain or Australia."

Now how in the hell you took that to mean Texas or Washington State goes over my head. I was obviously talking about international matters....hence the "Spain or Australia" example i used.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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No I am fine with them fighting for their independence.

I am also fine with them being destroyed utterly.

It isn't a concern of mine really.
Are you fine with them DOING the destroying (if it were possible), or just being destroyed?
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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No I am fine with them fighting for their independence.

I am also fine with them being destroyed utterly.

It isn't a concern of mine really.
Yeah, I can tell from the babbling on the subject.

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How did you identify them as Israelis?
From the reports of their arrest.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:46 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Is that how it works? People inside the borders of another country simply declare they want some land, then some other countries get to vote if they can have it, and if the vote passes... they get it?
Actually it is in some instances...look at the former Yugoslavia.
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:47 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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This was my original statement:

"I see no reasons why an American would be opposed to ANYONE declaring a state of their own. That's not our business. What the Palestinians do is up to the Palestinians, and i see no reason why i shouldn't recognize their state just like i recognize Spain or Australia."

Now how in the hell you took that to mean Texas or Washington State goes over my head. I was obviously talking about international matters....hence the "Spain or Australia" example i used.
In other threads,not this one....

You have stated,have you not,that what goes on in another state is none of your business?
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Old 09-20-2011, 10:49 AM
 
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Are you fine with them DOING the destroying (if it were possible), or just being destroyed?
I don't really care,Arabs are pretty much useless when it comes to conventional warfare so I doubt Israel would lose,even if Syria and other Arab nations joined in.

Something most Americans seem ignorant of is that Israel won most of its wars without the USA helping in any way.
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