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The Supreme Court defined a natural born citizen as being born to citizen parents. You have been unable to refute this.
This is a lie. The court in Minor v.Happersett explicitly refused to define it.
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The Indiana court cannot change this definition. Obots cannot change this definition.
The Indiana court did not change the definition. It applied the definition established by Supreme Court precedent.
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In WKA Justice Gray confirmed the Minor definition. This is why he had to look to the 14th Amendment. Justice Gray determined he would make WKA a citizen based on his parents having permanent residency and domcil. To his understanding this would cover the subject to jurisdiction in the 14th amendment.
The WKA court cited the Minor case for the exact opposite reason DC suggests. It was cited as a rebuttal to the Slaughterhouse Cases and the claim that children of aliens could not be citizens.
The WKA definition is clear. It is also consistent with over 500 years of Anglo-American common law:
Anybody born on US soil who is not the child of a foreign diplomat or alien army in hostile occupation is a natural born US citizen.
According to Illinois state filings, when Obama registered as an attorney in 1991, under the name Barack Obama, he stated he did not have any former names.
This is a lie. He never stated any such thing.
The question was whether not he had ever practiced law under other names.
And no, he never practiced law as "Barry Soetoro."
yes, I've been called by nickname for the better part of 30+ years. Why? Cause my name is usually mispronounced by everyone who tries to read it. So I give them my nickname. A nickname isn't a legal name. Its a name that is easier for people to remember.
so someone who's real name is Michael, but is called Mike every single day of his life, means that his name was changed to Mike?
Can you show us the Legal Name change form that was filed in Hawaii State Court and the required Newspaper announcement announcing the official name change of Barack H. Obama II to Barry Soetoro?
Yeah so what? My school applications have my nickname (not my official legal name) on them.
School applications are not government forms. Any name can be written on them.
BTW, you don't have SA Dunham writing Barry Soetoro on any application.
Can you show us the Legal Name change form that was filed in Hawaii State Court and the required Newspaper announcement announcing the official name change of Barack H. Obama II to Barry Soetoro?
yes, its common given name. But nowhere does it say that it must be his first or last name. Hussein is found on his COLB.
Grasping at straws.
I find it strange that an American kid is given an Arabic Shia name. There's a lot we don't know about this guy.
Anybody seen his Family Card?
Indonesia in the sixties was a Police State! Everybody, even babes, had Identity Documents of some sort, possibly including Passports.
Everybody was registered with the Government, one way or another. The head of each family, usually the father, but in rare cases a widowed, or divorced, mother has an Official Document called a Kartu Keluarga (Family Card). This lists every household/family member and gives their details in the same way as their individual KTPs or KITAS visas would.
Fact 16. An adopted, child called a WNI, warga negara Indonesia, has the same KK entry as any other Indonesian child. When a child enrolls in School their details are taken down from their KK Entry, as presented by the father (who is also required, at that time, to produce his KTP to verify the details on the KK). They are then given their Student KTP. KKs, like KTPs, are issued by the Government and cross checked by the National Police and Immigration Service.
Fact 17. Everything on Barry Soetoro record's at SD Asisi matches what would be true if he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro before he arrived in Indonesia. Schools are subject to periodical checks by both the Police and Immigration Officers as well as School Inspectors; this includes the teachers as well as the students.
Fact 18. Under Indonesian Law Barry Soetoro was an Indonesian Citizen and he could not Renounce that Citizenship until he was between the ages of 18 and 21, after 21 possibly he could not renounce it at all.
Fact 19. Dual nationals owe allegiance to both countries and are required to obey the laws of both countries. Either country has the right to enforce its laws, particularly if that person later travels there. Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country.
Fact 20. Somehow Stanley Ann Dunham got the necessary letter of permission from her husband so Barry Soetoro could go to Hawaii. An Indonesian Citizen called Barry Soetoro left Jakarta on an Indonesian Passport with both a US Visa and also an Indonesian Exit Visa. But an American Citizen called Barack Obama landed in Hawaii. NEWS VIEWS: ANOTHER DETAILED STUDY OF THE USURPER BARRY SOETORO AKA OBAMA
[SIZE=3]TOM BROKAW: We don't know a lot about Barack Obama and the universe of his thinking about foreign policy.
CHARLIE ROSE: I don't really know. And do we know anything about the people who are advising him?
TOM BROKAW: Yeah, it's an interesting question.
CHARLIE ROSE: He is principally known through his autobiography and through very inspirational (sic) speeches.
TOM BROKAW: Two of them! I don't know what books he's read.
CHARLIE ROSE: What do we know about the heroes of Barack Obama?
TOM BROKAW: There's a lot about him we don't know. [/SIZE]
I find it strange that an American kid is given an Arabic Shia name.
His father's name was Barack Hussein Obama. When you're named after someone, you take up their entire name. That's why he has a II after his name.
So it's not strange for an American kid getting a Japanese name? Or a Hawaiian name? Or a Czech name? Or a Norwegian name? Or a Chinese name?
Your racism is showing
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snip stuff about Indonesia, since it has nothing to do with Obama, who was born in America and named after HIS FATHER.
What does an article on a blog that is purely conspiratorial nonsense about Indonesian law (all wrong) or the false claim that Barack Obama had Indonesian Citizenship (he didn't, since he wasn't adopted - he was too old - and wasn't there at 18 years of age to officially renounce his US Citizenship and to take up Indonesian Citizenship. He didn't meet the requirements) have to do with Barack being named after his father?
If you compare the articles, you'll see that "Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the" was added into the one that appeared in the Standard
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