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Old 07-09-2012, 12:37 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Check page 15 on the sentencing project.
i checked it. page 15 says nothing to document that "if the murderer is black and the victim is white, the murderer is certain to get death while in reverse only a few white murderers received death when the victim was black."
that fact that scumbag mumia is still sucking air says you're wrong. along with the thousands of other cases where black murderers of white people failed to get the death penalty..

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In regards to bold, this is the most retarded statement of this thread by far so far.

So if I am innocent I should still show remorse and be sorry for something I did not do? Wouldn't that be admitting your own guilt?
So if I rob and kill YOU or your family member, the decision about whether I live in prison or get executed should be based on my (possibly insincere) remorse?
all of your huffing and puffing is completely irrelevant to the question of whether leniency may be based on remorse.

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You're just reinforcing the southern white folk stereotype right bout now.
oh, really

and what is the southern white folk stereotype? a propensity to argue against the clueless?
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:39 PM
 
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I never watch CSI and I just quoted the TIME's article. I didn't say it, they did. But if you wanna argue about it, I don't see why there can't be a DNA evidence at a shooting scene. DNA can be anything from blood, skin, saliva or hair. Any body tissue. It doesn't have to be semen.
i didn't even mention semen

the fact that troy davis was at the scene is not even in contention.

why did you fail to address any of my other points?
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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That's what I'm saying. Plus he seems like the type that might question the solid proof as well.
All it takes is a simple Google search - have you never heard of Daniel Greene?

Death row inmate Daniel Greene granted clemency | 11alive.com

My goodness! Daniel Greene is an inmate who was scheduled to be executed in GEORGIA!

He appears to be a BLACK MAN.

He was granted clemency by the SAME PAROLE BOARD that denied clemency to Troy Davis and granted clemency to Crowe!

"But, but - he is a black man - and EVERYBODY KNOWS that those people on the Georgia parole board are racists - how is it that they granted Mr. Greene clemency?"

Like I said - you need to do your homework before you jump to ridiculous conclusions - especially when you are going to play the race card - and impugn an entire group of individuals.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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So without any supporting evidence whatsoever - you are going to call a group of people(the parole board) racists?

Why are they racists - because you think that they are?

Did you consider that they might have had perfectly defensible reasons for actig as they did in the individual cases.

No of course you didn't - anyone who would write ""F#ck it, that n####r looks guilty, let him have it" - in reference to the parole board clearly has no room for actual facts to mess up their biased perceptions.
Yes...
The same board let the white murderer live for bs reasons. A chance that someone is innocent is more of a reason to not execute them as opposed to not executing someone 100% guilty who said he's sorry.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Yes...
The same board let the white murderer live for bs reasons. A chance that someone is innocent is more of a reason to not execute someone as opposed to not executing someone 100% guilty who said he's sorry.
Sigh...

See post #53 - your racial theory has been blown out of the water.

An apology is a BS reason? Seems that David Greene apologized for his crime also - and the parole board granted him clemency.

Yet - according to you - that shouldn't matter - because he is a black man - and the parole board makes decisions based on the color of ones skin - right?
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Sigh...

See post #53 - your racial theory has been blown out of the water.
Pretty much...
What I fail to understand is why all the tears some have for a criminal? Black, white, purple who cares.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:51 PM
 
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All it takes is a simple Google search - have you never heard of Daniel Greene?

Death row inmate Daniel Greene granted clemency | 11alive.com

My goodness! Daniel Greene is an inmate who was scheduled to be executed in GEORGIA!

He appears to be a BLACK MAN.

He was granted clemency by the SAME PAROLE BOARD that denied clemency to Troy Davis and granted clemency to Crowe!

"But, but - he is a black man - and EVERYBODY KNOWS that those people on the Georgia parole board are racists - how is it that they granted Mr. Greene clemency?"

Like I said - you need to do your homework before you jump to ridiculous conclusions - especially when you are going to play the race card - and impugn an entire group of individuals.
They prolly did it only cuz his case is the same as David Crowe (killed someone while on drugs) and they don't wanna get any more scrutiny and racism accusations after the Davis' execution.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:51 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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All it takes is a simple Google search - have you never heard of Daniel Greene?

Death row inmate Daniel Greene granted clemency | 11alive.com

My goodness! Daniel Greene is an inmate who was scheduled to be executed in GEORGIA!

He appears to be a BLACK MAN.

He was granted clemency by the SAME PAROLE BOARD that denied clemency to Troy Davis and granted clemency to Crowe!

"But, but - he is a black man - and EVERYBODY KNOWS that those people on the Georgia parole board are racists - how is it that they granted Mr. Greene clemency?"

Like I said - you need to do your homework before you jump to ridiculous conclusions - especially when you are going to play the race card - and impugn an entire group of individuals.
nice job. and thread-ender
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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They prolly did it only cuz his case is the same as David Crowe (killed someone while on drugs) and they don't wanna get any more scrutiny and racism accusations after the Davis' execution.
When you can only say that they "probally" did something for a certain reason - you are really on shaky ground.

I believe this is called the "Halo and Horn" effect - its been awhile since I studied it - but essentially it involves assigning motivations to people based on your preconceived notions of their character. In other words - since you have a prejudice against the parole board because you want to believe that they are making decisions based on skin color - you will assign a motivation to their action in the Greene case that fits your negative perception of them.

This is not solid argument.
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Old 07-09-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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When you can only say that they "probally" did something for a certain reason - you are really on shaky ground.
It's logical. The parole board doesn't want any more publicity than it already got. Had they not spared Greene, a new outrage would've begun. People would say, look-the same case as Crowe, a black man said he's sorry and they still executed him.
The parole board doesn't want this drama.
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