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Old 09-27-2011, 04:11 PM
 
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violence begats violence
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Old 09-27-2011, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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If those who steal other people's lands can pick themselves a fancy name from the old testament and run an illegitimate country, why not Palestine, the actual people of the soil

Did they steal those lands or win them? Every time they give any land back they are promptly rocketed for doing so. The Jews are the ancients of the land, historically.

The BRIC are the future? They are the future to a polluted northern hemisphere and will soon be starving for resources. They are emerging markets making decisions much like a child would. When the Palestinians act like a state, rather than promoting state-sponsored terrorism, only then should they talk about being recognized.

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I just think its funny that the Palestinians are now asking the UN for statehood, after they rejected UN's decision to give another statehood.
Good point! I'd also add that over 120 countries recognize Israel as a sovereign country. It's only the Arab countries (and Iran) who refuse to.

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Old 09-27-2011, 04:50 PM
 
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Another sexist, homophobic, anti-Semitic, backwards Muslim ministate filled with people who actively hate western ideals like freedom of religion, press and assembly.

Yahoo.

Let's all blow ourselves up to celebrate!
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Old 09-27-2011, 04:52 PM
 
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btw,

this in no way exonerates from certain actions that Israeli's have taken against Palestinians either.
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Old 09-27-2011, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Bergen co.
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isreal will surely find a way to stomp out any hope of a future palestinian state
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Old 09-28-2011, 12:18 PM
 
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isreal will surely find a way to stomp out any hope of a future palestinian state
We can only hope!
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Old 09-29-2011, 08:06 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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isreal will surely find a way to stomp out any hope of a future palestinian state
Hamas does a good job of stomping itself out without the Israelis. The've turned Gaza into a mini Iran.
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Old 09-29-2011, 11:40 PM
 
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Analysis: U.S., Palestinians race for votes at U.N. council | Reuters

They have six certain votes. And it's worth noting the unanimity in the BRIC block, which is the future.

Even if this motion is defeated by the Israeli lobby, the future looks real promising and we may actually see a Palestinian state before 2020

Here's to Palestine!
And you support their anti-gay and anti-Semitic statehood? Disgusting really.
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Old 09-30-2011, 03:56 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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After all, why did Abbas go to the U.N. last week? For nearly half a century, the United States has pursued a Middle East settlement on the basis of the formula of land for peace. Land for peace produced the Israel-Egypt peace of 1979 and the Israel-Jordan peace of 1994. Israel has offered the Palestinians land for peace three times since. And been refused every time. Why? For exactly the same reason Abbas went to the U.N. last week: to get land without peace. Sovereignty with no reciprocal recognition of a Jewish state. Statehood without negotiations. An independent Palestine in a continued state of war with Israel.

This is the reason that, regardless of who is governing Israel, there has never been peace. Territorial disputes are solvable; existential conflicts are not.

Land for peace, yes. Land without peace is nothing but an invitation to suicide.


Middle East peace: Middle East peace stymied by Palestinian rejections - Courant.com
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Old 09-30-2011, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Cheering for Palestine: If not now, the future looks so bright!
There is little doubt they will get the votes from the anti-American, anti-Israel UN....but can they get past a US veto?
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