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Old 11-03-2011, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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News Flash. China supplements all of their industry, since most of their industry is owned by the state. Why is the U.S. not allowed to supplement industry?
If it's owned by the state it's not subsidizing.
That's how China operates. That's how they get a stranglehold on an industry.

It's not new. The US could have stopped them years ago but our thirst for "cheap crap from China" is just too big.

But there is more to the story than this about chicken. You see China has a big chicken industry and they want to import their chicken to the US..organic no less. Can those two words even be used in a sentence without gagging.."Organic from China" ?
But the chicken industry is pretty adamant and have the $$$ to keep our Congress from going forward and allowing chicken to be imported from China.

And this chicken tariff goes back at least one year.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11415036

Here's more about chicken imports/exports and the US/China.
It's not as cut and dry as the article you posted.
http://news.change.org/stories/usda-...try-from-china
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:59 PM
 
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News Flash. China supplements all of their industry, since most of their industry is owned by the state. Why is the U.S. not allowed to supplement industry?
Because something something something socialism.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:00 PM
 
Location: southern california
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What is globalization?
here you go.


Globalization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:00 PM
 
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If it's owned by the state it's not subsidizing.
That's how China operates. That's how they get a stranglehold on an industry.

It's not new. The US could have stopped them years ago but our thirst for "cheap crap from China" is just too big.

Exactly!!!
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:00 PM
 
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If it's owned by the state it's not subsidizing.
That's how China operates. That's how they get a stranglehold on an industry.

It's not new. The US could have stopped them years ago but our thirst for "cheap crap from China" is just too big.
My motto is NEVER to big to fail. Technically you are right. If you own it you don't subsidize it. There the govt. controls the cost completely.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:01 PM
 
Location: The bustling, world-renowned downtown of Pataskala, OH
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Free trade=fair trade, only way possible. Global economics is way, way too complicated to micromanage with things like chicken tariffs without repricussions to the taxing nation. The United States is certainly not innocent on this front.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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Exactly. Now how are we going to "rethink" the whole complex entire thing and then move to something different? That genie is out of the bottle and ain't going back in.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:05 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Exactly. Now how are we going to "rethink" the whole complex entire thing and then move to something different? That genie is out of the bottle and ain't going back in.
i dont know about genies. why didnt you know what globalization was.
should we be talking about this stuff?
but its ok, i will answer your question.
need to rethink trade policies.
and change them. the theory behind china trade agreements and NAFTA was that with time and patience the imbalance would correct itself. it didnt.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:06 PM
 
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rethink trade policies.
and change them.
That still does nothing to end or stop globalization.
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Old 11-03-2011, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What's a whole chicken in the store these days..$1.99/lb ?
That is because it's subsidized.

The cost of grain has gone up. I have chickens myself and the feed has doubled in price.
My chickens are layers so I buy my chicken from another farm and am now paying $3.50/lb.
The price has gone up over the years due to rising feed costs. Processing costs have gone up as well due to increased USDA fees the processor has to pay.

The chickens themselves have not gone up in cost...$1.50 for a day old chick (broiler).
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