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Plus we've been in a partial but significant hiring freeze for government jobs, so this is good news. Sorry Repugs, Bin Laden can't be made undead, but you can still hope for the economy to turn around and head back downward.
The unemployment rate dropping to 8.6 % is a sign the economy is picking up. Then there was news the other day about economic growth in 3 major sectors. Looks like we are on the right path. No need to change leadership in the White House
uhm
false
that so called 'growth ' is not real growth
uhm
manufacturing is NOT up...at least not up IN the USA..it is up for american CORPORATIONS making and employing OVERSEAS
auto sales are up from RECORD LOWS...but still horrible...and what is up?? sales of honda, volkswagon and toyota,,they all are LEADING the american companies
housing construction should NOT be up since there is an OVERABUNDANCE of housing in the inventories
fact is we are STILL in a recession, never truely left it
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and the establishment of ANOTHER GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT (bigger government)
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a government CORPORATION like a fannie/freddie on steriods
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another corporation:
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this to bail out Freddie/Fannie in the rehabbing of homes that are "unmarketable" instead of leaving these to be auctioned "as is" and rehabbed through the private sector?
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The Commission would have the power to assess a user fee on almost any spectrum license holder, including commercial wireless, satellite and broadcast radio. Television broadcasters and public safety licensees are statutorily exempt from the user fee under the Communications Act of 1934.
These fees will be absorbed in costs to the customer - so basically this is a hidden tax on the poor and middleclass through cell phones, satellite services, etc
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the bill doesnt creat jobs, or ballance the budget
all obama's ANTI-jobs bill does is INCREASE the GOVERNMENT and INCREASE the DEBT, ..oh wait it does creat jobs....for LAWYERS
more fodder for lawyers
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the 2 billion+ dollar bailout of amtrac....page 31......more wasted money on failing companies
or is it 3 billion...no wait...6 billion..and 5 billion more......why do we pay a gas tax..???
over 40 billion going to the DOT
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Teacher Stabilization, Sections 202-215
Why does the teaching profession need "stabilization"? If I understand correctly the teaching industry has 50% less unemployment than most other sectors in our economy. How can this be interpreted as anything other than a payback to teacher's unions?
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out of the 447 billion only 80 billion goes to infrastructre:
Is this really a jobs plan?
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Another problem in that section........
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wow a bail out of Freddie/Fannie in the rehabbing of homes that are "unmarketable" instead of leaving these to be auctioned "as is" and rehabbed through the private sector?
its a government expansion bill...not a jobs bill
you asked for the proof...there you have it
So much crap, yet so little time. Go ahead, keep trying to get others to believe your nonsense.
Not me as I've never been unemployed and I've grabbed up any job between my main kind of jobs. Often I've worked 2 jobs, and may be doing that again soon.
This great boost in employment and jobs is more the result of unemployment extensions coming to an end.
Okay, so you pulled things out of thin air. Nothing new.
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I didn't say the Stimulus didn't create or save (WTF?) any jobs. I said it was a failure. Why don't you divide the number of jobs created/saved by the total number of dollars doled out and tell us how much money per job created it tallies up to be. And then tell us if you can muster the ability to call the stimulus a success.
Calling something a failure without a perspective is lame. Would you call 2001 tax cuts for stimulus a failure because it didn't stop the bleeding of job losses in private sector that continued into the third year? While 2.7 million private sector jobs in 19 months is nothing to write home about, if THAT is a failure, what would you call a period of seven years that saw only 3.9 million jobs added? A disaster?
Economy Creates 120,000 Jobs, Rate Tumbles to 8.6%
The "experts" were "expecting" over 200K jobs, but what does that matter when obama's minions can fudge the UE rate to make it SEEM like really good news?
Does that justify 4/10th knocked off the UE rate? I don't think so.
So it seems obama WILL somehow, miraculously get that UE rate down, by hook or crook, by any means necessary.
why not go back to the old math of calculating the UE rate. are the politicians that scared of telling the american taxpayers that we have a 20%+ unemployment rate?
Economy Creates 120,000 Jobs, Rate Tumbles to 8.6%
The "experts" were "expecting" over 200K jobs, but what does that matter when obama's minions can fudge the UE rate to make it SEEM like really good news?
Does that justify 4/10th knocked off the UE rate? I don't think so.
So it seems obama WILL somehow, miraculously get that UE rate down, by hook or crook, by any means necessary.
If we can drop 300,00 people from the total US workforce each month, we will down to 0% unemployment in no time.
The civilian labor force participation rate declined by 0.2 percentage point to 64.0 percent. The employment-population ratio, at 58.5 percent, changed little. (See table A-1.)
manufacturing is NOT up...at least not up IN the USA..it is up for american CORPORATIONS making and employing OVERSEAS
auto sales are up from RECORD LOWS...but still horrible...and what is up?? sales of honda, volkswagon and toyota,,they all are LEADING the american companies
housing construction should NOT be up since there is an OVERABUNDANCE of housing in the inventories
fact is we are STILL in a recession, never truely left it
No you want us to be in a recession until a republican is president
$20 billion to modernize and renovate elementary and secondary schools
$5 billion for state grants to modernize and renovate community colleges
$2 billion for airport development grants
$27 billion for restoration of highways, passenger and freight rail, and port infrastructure
$2 billion for repair and upgrade of Amtrak railroad assets and infrastructure
$3 billion for new buses and for repairing rail and bus systems in urbanized areas
$6 billion to modernize existing guideway systems and bus facilities
$15 billion to redevelop abandoned and foreclosed housing properties and affected neighborhoods
That's $85B out of $447B or 20% of the bill's "investments".
Is this really a jobs plan?
Who do you think performs all that work, elves?
Besides, you figures leave a great deal off -- like temporary tax cuts, which:
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Obama would extend payroll-tax cuts for workers for another year and enlarge the scale of the cuts. Giving con-sumers more money to spend – an estimated $1,500 for a household earning $50,000, the White House says – would help spur private-sector job creation. The cost to the government in lost revenue next year, according to Moody's: $175 billion, with job gains as high as 750,000.
Obama would also cut for 2012 the payroll tax that employers pay, including a year-long total payroll-tax holiday for firms that expand their payrolls by hiring or boosting wages. The president also proposes a one-year extension of "100 percent expensing," an incentive for businesses to invest in new equipment now to get a full tax deduction upfront. Cost next year: $70 billion, with job gains as high as 300,000.
True, the bill does other things, like bans discrimination against workers. That's a good thing.
You also claim "auto sales are up from RECORD LOWS." That's good, no?
Chrysler, Ford and Nissan were among the companies reporting double-digit gains from last November, which is normally a lackluster month because of colder weather and holiday distractions. This November, buyers were lured by good deals, improving confidence in the economy and the need to trade in older cars.
"Consumers are just starting to say `it's time to start spending money again,' " says Larry Dominique, executive vice president of data for the TrueCar.com automotive website.
why not go back to the old math of calculating the UE rate. are the politicians that scared of telling the american taxpayers that we have a 20%+ unemployment rate?
Well, y'all don't mind celebrating the same formula in 2002 or 2003. Why is the formula an issue now?
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