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Old 12-11-2011, 01:27 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Thanks for putting Solyndra in perspective. At a cost of of half a billion dollors we could have purchase just one tank.

Who would Europe rely on without the US protection?
Imagine if Europe had to make a choice between actually participating in world affairs or maintaining its arsenal of rhetoric in the face of Russia, China and all the terrorist states.

As Bernadine Dorn, Obama's advisor, and Bill Ayres want the world to participate in US presidential elections. Perhaps Europe, et al would like to participate in their defense by kicking in some cash to cover our expenses, that as illustrated, has a great impact on US hoseholds.

Try to do drug studies or conduct any business in Italy and you will wonder no longer why they totter on the brink of economic disaster.
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Old 12-11-2011, 01:46 PM
 
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Thanks for putting Solyndra in perspective. At a cost of of half a billion dollors we could have purchase just one tank.

Who would Europe rely on without the US protection?
Imagine if Europe had to make a choice between actually participating in world affairs or maintaining its arsenal of rhetoric in the face of Russia, China and all the terrorist states.

As Bernadine Dorn, Obama's advisor, and Bill Ayres want the world to participate in US presidential elections. Perhaps Europe, et al would like to participate in their defense by kicking in some cash to cover our expenses, that as illustrated, has a great impact on US hoseholds.

Try to do drug studies or conduct any business in Italy and you will wonder no longer why they totter on the brink of economic disaster.
Well, we could have purchased about 83 tanks.
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Old 12-11-2011, 02:22 PM
 
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WWI, and Vietnam were not our wars, we made them our wars. We also did not need to get involved in Europe during WWII.
Right, we'll just become isolationists and sit around our campfires singing kumbaya and the world will leave us alone...
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Old 12-11-2011, 04:35 PM
 
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Who would Europe rely on without the US protection? Imagine if Europe had to make a choice between actually participating in world affairs or maintaining its arsenal of rhetoric in the face of Russia, China and all the terrorist states.

As Bernadine Dorn, Obama's advisor, and Bill Ayres want the world to participate in US presidential elections. Perhaps Europe, et al would like to participate in their defense by kicking in some cash to cover our expenses, that as illustrated, has a great impact on US hoseholds.
Um...dude! I just pointed out that Europes military spending is monstrously large compared to anyone but America.

The UK alone outspends Russia. France alone outspends Russia. Germany is only slightly behind Russia in military spending. Hell, Italys got 66 % of Russias military spending. The Nordic nations plus Poland have 50 % of Russias military spending!

The UK and France together outspends China. UK, France and Germany totals more military spending than Russia and China combined! And that is just 3 European countries.

The Netherlands is the top 20 military spenders in the world. So is Spain, and Italy. Greece, Belgium and Norway is in the top 30, spending more money than nations like Mexico, Pakistan, and the Philippines -nations with a population of 100 milllion and up.

Kracer, put your money where your mouth is.

Tell us how much Europe ought to be spending. And who Europe ought to be considering as a potential enemy when setting up the military budgets.
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Old 12-11-2011, 04:41 PM
 
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Right, we'll just become isolationists and sit around our campfires singing kumbaya and the world will leave us alone...
With Ron Paul leading the song ...
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Old 12-11-2011, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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the us military spending provides your pampered a$$ the computer your typing on to express your free speech and the open internet its connected too. Without military superiority we would be subject to enemy attacks and the usa would probably no longer exist today as we currently know it. I'd like to see the draft reinstated and see you serve to defend our country at war. I think the experience might fix your attitude when you realize there are people and nations who are hell bent on killing you and your fellow countrymen. If you don't go to them ... They will come to you.
this people are crazy they think every thing they have is free. They have never been any where close to losing their freedom what fools!! Good post!
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Old 12-11-2011, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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That drone the Obama administration just lost to the Iranians is going to cost us dearly.

Just saying.
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:00 PM
 
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Right, we'll just become isolationists and sit around our campfires singing kumbaya and the world will leave us alone...
Cutting military spending won't make us isolationist. We are 5%of the global population, and 40% of its military spending - is that really necessary?

What is it getting us? Aside from a government that in a few years won't be able to pay for anything other than interest on its debt, of course.
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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That drone the Obama administration just lost to the Iranians is going to cost us dearly.

Just saying.
i THINK THAT WAS A GIFT!
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Old 12-11-2011, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Except that it does not cost that much money a year to do so, far from it in fact. Fail.
You have no idea what you're talking about.

You couldn't even figure out how much money it costs to fly a warhead from Yorktown Naval Weapons Station to Norfolk.

I know, because I used to do that.

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We'd be invaded by time traveling Nazis?
No, please. Study the photos carefully. They have obviously been re-animated.

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Maybe Social Security. Working most of your life is not good enough, you should work until you die!
No, you should listen to FDR explain Social Security in one of his fireside chats.

It was never intended that anyone should be able to live off Social Security. It is an income supplement, and nothing more; a last ditch effort to keep you off of the streets in your old age.

So if all you can afford is an 8' x 10' carpeted room in Mrs. Wensleydale's boarding house, then Social Security is working exactly as it was intended to.

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Cutting military spending won't make us isolationist. We are 5%of the global population, and 40% of its military spending - is that really necessary?
Do you want to maintain your current life-style and standard of living?

Because if you do (want to keep it), then you need to spend 40%.

If you are willing to give up your life-style and you can accept a lower standard of living, then please, by all means, cut the spending.

Your choice. Choose wisely.
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