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Old 12-14-2011, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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It looks just fine, thank you. My friends are careful to move their tents frequently so that the grass is not destroyed.
Yeah, because they are so respectful and clean up after themselves, right?

Glad I visited when I did.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Not quite accurate of the ruling.

The judge said they can stay until new rules are WRITTEN which limits sleeping bags and tents

Why is the OP being dishonest?
Any new rules written will have to be court tested to make certain that they are fair to anyone else who might wish to camp overnight there. There are a number of religious groups who have stayed overnight there, as well as other political groups. There have been all-night candlelight vigils there for as long as I can remember. I was there for a few myself back in the early 70s.

Any rules will have to be written to accomodate everyone. In short, it is highly unlikely that tehy will be written. If they are, there is always the possibility that somewhere else someone is making similar rules that will be struck down in the courts, leading to legal battles with different precedents.

I wouldn't look for any rules to stop freedom of assembly during our lifetimes, in other words.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Any new rules written will have to be court tested to make certain that they are fair to anyone else who might wish to camp overnight there. There are a number of religious groups who have stayed overnight there, as well as other political groups. There have been all-night candlelight vigils there for as long as I can remember. I was there for a few myself back in the early 70s.

Did they have permits?
I betcha they did.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Even to exercise your 1st amendment rights, you need the proper permits to organize and demonstrate. You have to file a formal plan with the city with where you plan to demonstrate, for how long, and what you plan to do during the demonstration.

I don't care if the tents are 1st Amendment speech. What I do care about is, free speech or not, these people don't have the necessary permits, thus, need to be removed.
There are no permits required for an assembly. There are no leaders to file plans or sign permits, any more than when the Teabaggers assembled there.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Did they have permits?
I betcha they did.
not at the candle light vigils. If there are no leaders, there is no one to apply for or sign permits. Nor should there be such a requirement, any more than forty people should have to have a permit to wait together at a bus stop.

It amazes me how many people do not understand the concept of "Free Assembly" and "Free Speech". Don't the schools teach civics any more?
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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There are no permits required for an assembly. There are no leaders to file plans or sign permits, any more than when the Teabaggers assembled there.
Pitch tents, stay as long as you want,
crap anywhere you want,
no permits required. OK.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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It amazes me how many people do not understand the concept of "Free Assembly" and "Free Speech". Don't the schools teach civics any more?
It amazes me that anyone considers the concept of
"Free Assembly" and "Free Speech," and thinks that
gives them the right to set up a squatters' camp.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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It amazes me that anyone considers the concept of
"Free Assembly" and "Free Speech," and thinks that
gives them the right to set up a squatters' camp.
No. That right was given them by the Constitution.

And today the Federal Courts confirmed it.
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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No. That right was given them by the Constitution.

And today the Federal Courts confirmed it.

The Constitution gives us the right to "occupy"
anything we want? Viva anarchy!
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Old 12-14-2011, 07:55 PM
 
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Any new rules written will have to be court tested to make certain that they are fair to anyone else who might wish to camp overnight there. There are a number of religious groups who have stayed overnight there, as well as other political groups. There have been all-night candlelight vigils there for as long as I can remember. I was there for a few myself back in the early 70s.

Any rules will have to be written to accomodate everyone. In short, it is highly unlikely that tehy will be written. If they are, there is always the possibility that somewhere else someone is making similar rules that will be struck down in the courts, leading to legal battles with different precedents..
How is a rule which says no camping, not fair to everyone?
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I wouldn't look for any rules to stop freedom of assembly during our lifetimes, in other words.
You are perfectly allowed to assemble whereever the hell you wish, provided the owner of the property gives permission.

Its reasons like this I support small government, and dont like it when taxes are used to fund things they shouldnt be used for. There will always be some crackpot fringe of society who claims they can do whatever the hell they wish, ignoring all common sense.
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