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Old 12-16-2011, 06:34 AM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Well Wade some glaciers are growing, what is the cause of the discrepancy?
Warming ocean waters providing increased precip in select areas, as explained in your link.


Fountain said that similar trends were evident in some Scandinavian glaciers during the 1990s, which benefited from increased storminess and precipitation coming off the North Atlantic Ocean. Researchers have also found that glaciers on California's Mt. Shasta have been growing for decades. And glacier recession has been blunted in the mountains of Oregon and Washington state because of increased moisture from the warming Pacific Ocean.
In the Karakorams, the uptick in glacier mass has come with a welcomed perk. The mighty Indus River, which flows out of China and nourishes northern India and much of Pakistan has experienced an increase in discharge.
But it's not likely to last.
"As temperatures continue increasing, they will overtake additional mass provided by snow," Fountain said. "The freezing level will keep rising, and glaciers will melt."


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This is actually a pretty good example of how the media reports these things with a bias. "Seem to be" would imply that it's questionable, you won't find any media outlets with the headline "Glaciers seem to be melting". They aren't even satisfied with bias reporting, and will even opt to make stuff up like this. We have an entire generation that has been bombarded by crap like this.

And then there's the counter-bombardment from the fossil fuel industry that "everything is OK, people. Keep on burning our product like you always have."

That message resonates with dittoheads.
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Old 12-16-2011, 06:34 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Where is the ice sheet that covered 1/2 of North America, only 1000 years ago.

Those Indians and their cars, causing global warming! They were stupid, weren't they.
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Old 12-16-2011, 06:51 AM
 
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Where is the ice sheet that covered 1/2 of North America, only 1000 years ago.

Those Indians and their cars, causing global warming! They were stupid, weren't they.
There's quite a difference between 1000 and 10,000. Especially in terms of human history.

Just sayin'...

The last glacial period was the most recent glacial period within the current ice age occurring during the last years of the Pleistocene, from approximately 110,000 to 10,000 years ago.[1]
During this period there were several changes between glacier advance and retreat. The maximum extent of glaciation was approximately 18,000 years ago. While the general pattern of global cooling and glacier advance was similar, local differences in the development of glacier advance and retreat make it difficult to compare the details from continent to continent (see picture of ice core data below for differences).
From the point of view of human archaeology, it falls in the Paleolithic and Mesolithic periods.

Last glacial period - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 12-16-2011, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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and you want to ***** about planning for the future, spending a fraction on what was spent helping the oil industry.

Solyndra was not "planning for the future". It was a total fraudulent waste.

And AGW taxes and restrictions are not "planning for the future". They are helping to destroy our future.
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Old 12-16-2011, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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opps, got caught moving decimal points again?
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Where is the ice sheet that covered 1/2 of North America, only 1000 years ago.

Those Indians and their cars, causing global warming! They were stupid, weren't they.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Global warming, climate change, it doesn't matter because there is nothing being done about it. Even if everyone on the planet agreed we are suffering the effects of climate change nothing will change. India and China will continue on with pollution and industrial waste until the air in unbreathable and the junk piles become mountains. The world cannot turn back and any talk of change is useless. We all better hope that those that do no believe in global warming are right.
Or focus our attention on how to cope with warming......
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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but blow outs like the Macondo well are our future? Care to wager which one cost more for society?

Cleaner air and cleaner water is a win win for everyone.

Conserving the remaining oil resources for the "heavy lifting" in our future is a win win for everyone, there are some things that solar and wind cannot do, we should be saving oil to fly planes and move heavy objects instead of clogging the roads with wasteful vehicles that could be replaced with vehicles that are powered by renewables.

Using the remaining worldwide foreign oil BEFORE we use our domestic oil reserves is a matter of national security. If the rest of the world has oil and we drill baby drilled away our oil we become weak.

Shifting lightweight energy usage to renewable is a smart energy policy. Creating and promoting renewables creates jobs and a new economic engine. we could lead or we could follow, right now we are letting the rest of the world lead. Solyndra didn't fail becuz there was no demand, it failed becuz foreign competition is years ahead of us... yes, Solyndra is a sad case, not becuz of the right wing spin that it was a fraud, but becuz it show how far behind we really are.

we cannot drill our way to energy independance but we can take steps now that reduce the need for foreign energy supplies. when we do, the price of energy will fall, the old supply and demand chart from econ 101, more supply leads to lower costs, so increasing the use of renewables will reduce the cost of all energy. why do you think big oil is fighting renewables and buying up the tech to put on their shelves?

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Solyndra was not "planning for the future". It was a total fraudulent waste.

And AGW taxes and restrictions are not "planning for the future". They are helping to destroy our future.

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Old 12-16-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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There's quite a difference between 1000 and 10,000. Especially in terms of human history.

Just sayin'...

The last glacial period was the most recent glacial period within the current ice age occurring during the last years of the Pleistocene, from approximately 110,000 to 10,000 years ago.[1]
During this period there were several changes between glacier advance and retreat. The maximum extent of glaciation was approximately 18,000 years ago. While the general pattern of global cooling and glacier advance was similar, local differences in the development of glacier advance and retreat make it difficult to compare the details from continent to continent (see picture of ice core data below for differences).
From the point of view of human archaeology, it falls in the Paleolithic and Mesolithic periods.

Last glacial period - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Yes, we are still coming out of the last ice age.

Science has documented that very well.

Set off about 10 nukes and we could be in another ice age quickly.
Enjoy the heat while you can!
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Global warming is a bigger threat to our world than war, the economy, AIDS, poverty, same sex marriage.

HOW CAN ANYONE, WITH ALL THE OBVIOUS SIGNS, DENY GLOBAL WARMING!!!!? AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
The planet obviously does have cycles where it warms and cools, and there is nothing we puny humans can do to alter that.
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Old 12-16-2011, 07:34 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Maryland's Eastern Shore is likely to be underwater within the next couple of years due to global warming. Maryland is not very safe.

You've been watching too many Al Gore movies.
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