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Sounds like a business opportunity: a hotel just for smokers. Start drafting the business plan and make you a fortune.
BUT you can't do that because it's against the law, the busness owner has no choice. In PA if you own bar and more than 20% of your sales are food you can't allow smoking. A lot of places ending up making a choice from curtailing the food or banning smoking. There is bar near me that did a booming business with food, takeout and at the bar. They ended up cutting their menu down to nothing so they could allow smoking, does that make sense?
Btw, I think it's fine for hotels with patios or balconies to be fully non-smoking. That's a fair compromise, since many prefer smoking outside anyway - just not when it requires trekking across a giant hotel in our pajamas.
Of course, the way some people are these days, they'd probably still whine that it was wafting past their windows. Oy.
I think it's fine for hotels to be fully non-smoking even if they don't have patios or balconies. However, I don't think nanny government should be telling hotels what smoking rules they're allowed to have.
And, honestly, we are really picked on in some of these threads. I don't know if you read a few pages back, but one poster was talking about how only "low-class" people smoke. Wow...
BUT you can't do that because it's against the law, the busness owner has no choice. In PA if you own bar and more than 20% of your sales are food you can't allow smoking. A lot of places ending up making a choice from curtailing the food or banning smoking. There is bar near me that did a booming business with food, takeout and at the bar. They ended up cutting their menu down to nothing so they could allow smoking, does that make sense?
Form a private club. Charge $1 for membership. The club is members only. Legal in all 50 states.
I don't understand why people always have to pick on smokers. We know what we're doing is bad for us. Most of us started as teenagers and quitting is h*ll, staying quit is even harder. What's ironic is that I'm sure many of you anti-smoking people used to be smokers yourselves. You are free to avoid places where smoking is allowed and, even in the absence of laws, smoking is prohibited by most businesses in this day and age.
Honestly, you've practically made smoking illegal with all these restrictions on people smoking in private places and with these absurd taxes (I don't see a real difference between a tax and a fine when the taxes are so enormous).
When was that?
We've never lived in a 'free' society. There have always been restrictions against something. Always.
As was mentioned earlier, great news!!!
And as was also mentioned earlier, if the hotels felt that this was going to hurt their business, there would have been much greater push-back against these laws from the chains, the tourism industry, local chambers of commerce, etc.
What if you're smoker and there isn't any smoking rooms available for 100 miles?
Dip, chew, snus, e-cigarette, the patch, gum, or just walk out the door
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And, honestly, we are really picked on in some of these threads. I don't know if you read a few pages back, but one poster was talking about how only "low-class" people smoke. Wow...
Technically they would be correct as the highest percentage of those that do smoke are of low education and income.
I don't understand why people always have to pick on smokers. We know what we're doing is bad for us. Most of us started as teenagers and quitting is h*ll, staying quit is even harder. What's ironic is that I'm sure many of you anti-smoking people used to be smokers yourselves. You are free to avoid places where smoking is allowed and, even in the absence of laws, smoking is prohibited by most businesses in this day and age.
Honestly, you've practically made smoking illegal with all these restrictions on people smoking in private places and with these absurd taxes (I don't see a real difference between a tax and a fine when the taxes are so enormous).
Liberals will do anything to feel better about themselves. It's almost ironic that they are labeled "liberals" when they absolutely hate liberty!
Liberals will do anything to feel better about themselves. It's almost ironic that they are labeled "liberals" when they absolutely hate liberty!
Yes everything is always "the libs" fault , Even though it's not a federal mandate and it's up to the states to enact their own laws, which many hard right ones also have smoking bans
Nothing except it's easier to blame it on the law than to standing in front of an irate smoker who is demanding you change your personal non-smoker's policy just for them.
I have only seen that with non-smokers when they would go to a restaurant and had to wait for a non-smoking table.
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, Even though it's not a federal mandate and it's up to the states to enact their own laws, which many hard right ones also have smoking bans 
