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View Poll Results: Do you feel it is correct to teach children that homosexuality is normal and natural?
Yes 292 50.34%
No 256 44.14%
I am unsure 32 5.52%
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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I don't think children ought to be taught someone's personal belief of what is normal versus not. Doing so from fear of them being driven into homosexuality would be abnormal. You can't override something that exists naturally by preaching against it.
So rapists, pedophiles, nudists, pornographers should be given freedom to live out their impulses? And then teach them to our children?
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:47 AM
 
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This thread is about teaching it as NORMAL. To our children.

Most Gays don't have children, none of them have children from themselves.

Why would a gay agenda opinion have merit over a NORMAL Man / Women relationship.

Teach your own this digressive life choice, not those that find it vile and degrading to mankind.
Perhaps not with the biological genes from both of them, but many homosexuals have children from previous relationships, in vitro, adoption, and/or use of a surrogate.

Those children are no different than the children of any other parental unit structure.

You are free to teach your children that homosexuality is bad. You are free to teach your children that left-handedness is of the devil. You are free to teach your children anything you want. Just don't expect society to cater to the things you hate for no other reason than your dislike of them.

Since every form of sexuality present in humans is seen throughout many other species of animals, it is therefore known that such sexualities are of nature, aka natural. Because these sexualities are natural, it is normal for humans to experience various forms of sexuality.

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No my kids are taught it is not NORMAL. They really didn't have to be taught the truth, it was pretty automatic when they saw two guys kissing. Gross, wrong, and AB-NORMAL.
The first time I saw two guys making out, I was right turned on. Oh, yaoi, how awesome you are.

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Darkness btw is why this world is falling apart and becoming more destructive, and hateful.
Hateful? Surely you must mean calling people "vile and degrading", amirite?

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Teaching deviance and sensualism has moved this world closer to destruction.
Deviance and sensualism has been taught for over a millenia. Or should I list off the number of famous kings who had numerous wives and concubines? Should I provide examples from a certain religious texts showing that polygamy has been around since the proverbial "beginning of humanity"?

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But i don't expect you to understand the deeper meanings to our actions.
What's with the love of "deeper meanings" and "shoving things down kids' throats"?
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:47 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I don't think children ought to be taught someone's personal belief of what is normal versus not. Doing so from fear of them being driven into homosexuality would be abnormal. You can't override something that exists naturally by preaching against it.
Urinating into one's mouth exists naturally. Apes are frequently seen to do this.

Therefore, we should be teaching young children about this activity? Hmm...
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:47 AM
 
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Marcus is Michelle Bachmann's husband.
OK. But that still doesn't tell me much since after hearing a couple of her speeches, I sort of tuned out.
Sorry to seem obstinate but I need context.
I'm not really interested in her or who she's humping and I'm certainly not feeling motivated enough to research her personal life to get this information.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Nature is random.
Nature is not random. There are certainly elements of randomness to it but there are obviously elements of order.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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Nature is not random. There are certainly elements of randomness to it but there are obviously elements of order.
A statement of faith.

I learned long ago that arguing with blind faith is pointless so I'm done here.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So rapists, pedophiles, nudists, pornographers should be given freedom to live out their impulses? And then teach them to our children?
No, rapists, pedophiles and pornographers should be treated like any and every other individual who does or attempts to impede on others' freedoms. And children should be taught about them all. Now what has any of that got to do with the subject of homosexuality? If anything ALL of those apply to heterosexuals, and more so. Or do those cases, when heterosexuality is involved, automatically become normal?

As for nudists, I left those out. Let them be. Their choice.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:53 AM
 
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Perhaps not with the biological genes from both of them, but many homosexuals have children from previous relationships, in vitro, adoption, and/or use of a surrogate.

Those children are no different than the children of any other parental unit structure.
Really? NO different? They are not biologically connected, or spiritually joined.
Parental UNIT? What are we Cyborgs. This is the point in our history, where normal is being redefined to fit a Abnormality in a few broken people and shove it down the throats of history.


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Since every form of sexuality present in humans is seen throughout many other species of animals, it is therefore known that such sexualities are of nature, aka natural. Because these sexualities are natural, it is normal for humans to experience various forms of sexuality.
Always a lame comparison. Animals and human beings are no where near the same is so many cognitive decisions, to say people are instinctively programmed to live no higher than animals is an offense to our Creator.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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No, rapists, pedophiles and pornographers should be treated like any and every other individual who does or attempts to impede on others' freedoms. And children should be taught about them all. Now what has any of that got to do with the subject of homosexuality? If anything ALL of those apply to heterosexuals, and more so. Or do those cases, when heterosexuality is involved, automatically become normal?

As for nudists, I left those out. Let them be. Their choice.
NOt if me or my children have to look at them.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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No my kids are taught it is not NORMAL. They really didn't have to be taught the truth, it was pretty automatic when they saw two guys kissing. Gross, wrong, and AB-NORMAL.

Darkness btw is why this world is falling apart and becoming more destructive, and hateful.

Teaching deviance and sensualism has moved this world closer to destruction.

But i don't expect you to understand the deeper meanings to our actions.
the reaction your kids have to two guys kissing is because they are straight and you have told them it isn't normal.

"darkness" is that a code word for immorality taught by religion?

our world is not going to be destroyed because people engage in sex you don't approve of. if that was the case we wouldn't have made it this far.

I wouldn't understand? because I have a different view then you, you assume I am stupid? how closed minded you are. education is about learning things, even stuff you may not agree with.
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