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Old 12-17-2011, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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It looks as though a brilliant tactical maneuver is being used to get Obama properly vetted at the state level this time compared to the 08 election. These formal complaints being issued to state election commission officials who's duty is to make sure the candidates are constitutionally legal to be placed on the state ballot to run for office of the presidency are starting to be filed everywhere. By law, they are inclined to investigate candidates when a complaint is filed. Like the official statutory legal complaints now filed in Georgia and Alabama this week, now it has been done in the state Obama calls his birthplace.......Hawaii. What this boils down to is that the challengers are using the states own statutes on vetting to make the election board ballot officials to investigate Obama. This time, a state lawmaker has signed this complaint. His name is State Representative Larry Rappaport.


Read the Hawaii complaint here with the allegations:
Hawaii Ballot Challenge Filed Against Obama Being Placed on the Hawaii Primary Ballot

Excerpts:

PETITION UNDER HAWAII ELECTIONS LAW §3-172–3 and demand for an emergency hearing under §3-171-4

COMPLAINT UNDER §19-3 ELECTIONS FRAUD

I.§3-171-3 Adoption, amendment, or repeal of rules.

When pursuant a petition therefore , or upon the chief elections officer’s own motion, the chief election officer proposes to adopt, amend, or repeal a rule, the rule shall be adopted, amended, or repealed in according to procedures set forth in Chapter 91 and section 92-41, HRS

§3-171-4 Conduct of hearing. (a) The chief election officer shall afford all interested persons the opportunity to submit data, views, or argument.

(3)(b) The chief election officer or the designated representative shall conduct the public hearing

Petitioners demand a public hearing seeking modification of elections rules in order to close an existing loophole, which allows an inelligble candidate to put his name on the ballot as a candidate for the U.S. President in violation of the Naural Born Citizen provision. Petitioners are seeking to add a procedure allowing members of the public and U.S. voters to inspect identification records and eligibility records of the presidential and vice presidential candidates, in order to uphold and protect citizens inalienable civil and human right to lawful elections, free of fraud and forgery.

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This issue came to light during the presidency of Barack Hussein Obama. Recently released passport records of his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, show , that after her second marriage, Ms. Dunham took the last name of her second husband and went by the name Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro. In 1968 Ms. Dunham Soetoro applied to renew her U.S. passport. On page 2 of her renewal application, under” Amend to include/exclude children”, she excluded her son Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah. (Exhibit 10 (a) Passport records of Stanley Ann Dunham with her dependent son listed under the name Barack Hussein Obama Soebarkah.)

Exhibit 10(b) shows Barack Obama’s school registration in Indonesia, provided by the Associated Press and acknowledged by Mr. Obama. It lists him using his step father’s last name Soetoro. It is common in South East Asia: Indonesia and India, to blend names together, which might explain Soebarkah, as a blend of Obama’s last name by his step father, indonesian citizen Lolo Soetoro, and his first name Barack, to create a moniker, a blended name Soebarkah.

There is no record of Mr. Obama ever legally changing his name from Soetoro or Soebarkah to Obama. As such he cannot be on the ballot without ascertaining his legal name. One cannot run for the U.S. President under a name, which is not legally his. Until this recent release of Mr. Obama’s mother’s passport records, the name Soebarkah was not known and was not brought forward during the 2008 campaign.

Additionally, in his school registration records, his citizenship is listed as Indonesian, as such, as a foreign national, he cannot be the US President
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:20 PM
 
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Birthers ride the short bus.
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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Birthers ride the short bus.
The law is straight forward. Obama wasn't properly vetted and he needs to answer to the allegations put forth in the official state complaint. How do you explain the anomaly in the presidents name?
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:35 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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Birthers ride the short bus.
I'm not sure they'd even be allowed on the short bus.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:09 PM
 
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For one thing, I have never ever heard of this forum before until now. I actually heard of the forum mentioned on blog talk radio this morning so I came over to join. The Constitution must be upheld, especially Article 2 Section 1 Clause 5. Right now it isn't.
So the state of Hawaii is going to challenge its own custodians of records, both Republican and Democrat. Sure be entertaining.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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LOL, a NEW birther, how quaint. as if we never heard this rubbish a thousand times over the last three years.
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The law is straight forward. Obama wasn't properly vetted and he needs to answer to the allegations put forth in the official state complaint. How do you explain the anomaly in the presidents name?
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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So the state of Hawaii is going to challenge its own custodians of records, both Republican and Democrat. Sure be entertaining.
It will be an even shorter hearing than the one in New Hampshire.

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Old 12-17-2011, 01:44 PM
 
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So all of you after birthers are going to hold a person responsible for sins of omission and commission done by their parent when they were less than 13 years old.
If you do that for everybody, we will all be in trouble.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:59 PM
 
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I wonder if birthers will still be around in Obama's last days of his second term?
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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So all of you after birthers are going to hold a person responsible for sins of omission and commission done by their parent when they were less than 13 years old.
If you do that for everybody, we will all be in trouble.
There are strict guidelines to be president and protocols in place to be on state ballots. This filing challenge is to make sure the guidelines are met. If Obama went by another name at one time and didn't legally change it back, it must be investigated and he needs to show paperwork where his name was changed back to Barack Obama.
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