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Old 01-03-2012, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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I would rather support our impoverished masses than spend trillions killing other country's peasants. How many of our people would be unemployed and how many portfolios devastated if we stopped our Forever War? The true welfare class in this economy is the War profiteers and their employees.

Our being the Warmasters of the world has driven us to bankruptcy and eternal damnation.
yes. four useless wars, yet no one is opting to cut the military. i wonder why...

Im wondering if they will start another useless one before November, to distract the pablum fed masses from the economy. I bet they will.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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CNN - Is America In Denial About It's Decline? - YouTube

This makes me very sad.
What has this country come to?
I do miss Cafferty but I refuse to watch Blitzer just to hear Cafferty. The decline is very obvious unless you are thinking about the attempt at pure tyranny from Obama. That is surely not in decline.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:19 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It doesn't matter. The welfare dependent class isn't going away. Not going to happen.
With a birth rate 3 times that of everyone else, not only isn't it going to go away, it's going to exponentially increase until its numbers far surpasses those of the class that actually supports itself.

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The elites don't have a interest in it.
You couldn't be more wrong. There's an entire profitable industry built up around exploiting the poor.

JP Morgan Makes Big Bucks from Food Stamp Growth, Then Hires Workers in India with Our Tax Dollars

The Poverty Pimp's Poem
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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With a birth rate 3 times that of everyone else, not only isn't it going to go away, it's going to exponentially increase until its numbers far surpasses those of the class that actually supports itself.
Nothing will happen, that's what. Yes it will grow, I know. But their is no consent of this issue in Washington. That's why nothing is going to happen.

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You couldn't be more wrong. There's an entire profitable industry built up around exploiting the poor.
That's what i said. The elites have no interest of the welfare state going away. The banksters make money of it.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:33 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Nothing will happen, that's what. Yes it will grow, I know.
Where is the money going to come from to pay for their welfare benefits? Only 49% of income earners pay any federal income tax, now, and that percentage has been steadily declining.

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That's what i said. The elites have no interest of the welfare state going away. The banksters make money off it.
Exactly. So... why should the American public continue to advocate support for the welfare state in any way, shape, or form? Do liberals really support enriching the banksters?

They sure seem to; they elected Obama to office, and they support him, still.

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Old 01-03-2012, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Decline? After World War II is when the United States took off as a super power. I think we hit our peak in 2000 and the Decline began in 2001, and we've been rapidly going down the Sh*t hole ever since.
Became a super power... at what cost? Warfare is a great base for quick and easy economy, but also the worst enemy in the long term. What has this country done right since 1950s, as far as foreign policy goes? Please dare to spell it out.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:39 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Nothing will happen, that's what. Yes it will grow, I know. But their is no consent of this issue in Washington. That's why nothing is going to happen.



That's what i said. The elites have no interest of the welfare state going away. The banksters make money of it.
Yes, sadly you are correct. Banksters rule. JPMorgan Chase makes govt money RUNNING the food stamp program now, very very scary....

Same with illegals. neither side cares bcs China-mart needs low level workers. Meanwhile mid level corp jobs are all outsourced...this is beyond a partisan issue, go ahead and bicker about one side ot the other, the truth is all of Congress knows where American decline is headed.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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Where is the money going to come from to pay for their welfare benefits? Only 49% of income earners pay any federal income tax, now, and that percentage has been steadily declining.

Exactly. So... why should the American public continue to advocate support for the welfare state in any way, shape, or form? Do liberals really support enriching the banksters?

They sure seem to; they elected Obama to office, and they support him, still.

Top Contributors to Barack Obama | OpenSecrets

Obama's Big Sellout: The President has Packed His Economic Team with Wall Street Insiders | Common Dreams

Matt Taibbi: Obama's Big Sellout to Wall Street | Video Cafe
You gotta stop to think that any party will do anything about it. They are bought by the elites. And they do as they are told. It doesn't matter if liberals or conservatives. The welfare state will eventually bankrupt this country just like the military expenditures will. And the lowest taxes since WWII will also bankrupt this country. Which may lead into a civil war or revolution.
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:45 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You gotta stop to think that any party will do anything about it. They are bought by the elites. And they do as they are told. It doesn't matter if liberals or conservatives. The welfare state will eventually bankrupt this country just like the military expenditures will.
More federal funding goes to social spending than to the military.

I wish the U.S. would NOT get involved in military actions worldwide, however a national defense is mandated in the Constitution. There is NO Constitutional mandate for artificially supporting those who will not support themselves (legitimately incapacitated individuals excluded, of course, hence the *will not* in my statement).
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Old 01-03-2012, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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More federal funding goes to social spending than to the military.

I wish the U.S. would NOT get involved in military actions worldwide, however a national defense is mandated in the Constitution. There is NO Constitutional mandate for artificially supporting those who will not support themselves (legitimately incapacitated individuals excluded, of course, hence the *will not* in my statement).
What is "national defense" about military position half way around the world?
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