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Old 05-21-2012, 09:15 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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The Canadian government gave 4.7 billion in aid to Africa in 2009, which is more than double the amount US gave.


great, maybe we can move the UN to Montreal too, or even paris. would be better than taking up space in the USA.

maybe we can also get all these foreigners out and have them stop mucking up american elections too.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:16 PM
 
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The Canadian government gave 4.7 billion in aid to Africa in 2009, which is more than double the amount US gave.
See, this is why you folks can't be trusted. In 2009 total aid to Africa from America was 8.2 billion. In 2011 it was 11 billion and the world bank matched that with 11 billion.

Now whether that's worthwhile or not or if it's being sent to the proper places or not is another thread.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:37 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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How funny! Non-humans don't think like we do. They just go on reproducing w/o another thought. It's humans who want to have someone to take care of them in their old age, and to carry on their spirit after them. It's humans who have fewer children if they know their kids are more likely to survive to adulthood.

Fertility and living standards: Go forth and multiply a lot less | The Economist

There is no question that vaccines are in the mind of anyone who knows anything about how immunizations work. The only "educated" people who oppose immunization are those who just don't get it.

You are right about population increase, but it what countries is the population increasing "exponentially"?
Increased birth rates among animals with a high mortality rate among their young is a basic and common phenomenon throughout ecology; only humans control their reproduction for social reasons. That's why we are don't follow the rule.

Your comment on vaccines is funny considering there are plenty of immunologist, biologist, physicians and millions of other educated people who know a lot about how vaccines work who I guess "just don't get it." You might think all vaccines are safe outweigh the risk, but I know a lot of people who know a hell of lot about immunology and medicine who beg to differ.

As for population increase, the planet as a whole is increasing exponentially. India is an example of a country with exponential growth, but really the entire world population is growing that way as a whole. It doesn't do much good to break it down by country. If there are, hypothetically, 7 billion people in Asia but only 1 billion everywhere else, that's still 8 billion people for one earth full of resources.
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Old 05-21-2012, 09:50 PM
 
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It is critical that everyone adopt a very aggressive view for zero population growth. We have been so successful as a species that the world cannot support us all. We must redirect our resourses to providing a quality upbringing for those that are born while looking for improved and new methods for population control. You are not stupid folks. Look around. Watch the news. Homeless. Unemployed. etc.
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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not a psychopath, just a realist. I also dont believe in goverment supporting other countries problems, no matter what country it is.


also, since you are canadian, why not have your goverment step up the giving to other countries. that way we in the USA can stop loaning or granting other countries money.
Helping them is a pretense, it's about killing them.
Is Bill Gates a Psychopath? | Dprogram.net

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This was a clear public announcement of Gates’ plan to kill off hundreds of millions of people.
And yet, this announcement of mass murder has resulted in no punishment. No prison time has occurred, no criminal charges have been filed and no one is suing the pants off of the Gates family.
Gates has proclaimed this as “The Century of the Vaccination”, unrolling plans that 90% of the world be vaccinated. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has “philanthropically” subjected hundreds of thousands of children in India to a polio vaccine that was banned in the United States because it caused the very disease it was purported to prevent. Over 47,500 Indian children given this vaccine have since developed a polio-like paralysis.
If Gates can’t poison you directly via vaccines, he has developed a secondary plan, and this one has the added bonus of lining his already-stuffed pockets. Under the benevolent cloak of promoting agricultural advancement, Gates has provided the farmers of the Third World with Monsanto seeds.
Gates has recently invested heavily in Monsanto, the GMO giant. Monsanto is responsible for the genetically engineered seeds with pesticides built right in. The seeds can only be used one time and the food that results from the seeds is nutrionally inferior to unmodified seeds. Despite (or perhaps because of) the lack of nutritional value and the inability to save seeds from one year to the next, Gates is gifting these toxic “terminator” seeds via the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
In effect, by giving these seeds away, Gates and Monsanto are like the drug dealers that give someone the first hit for free.
Learn about Agenda 21. A plan to cull the "useless eaters".


United Nations Agenda 21- "Green" Depopulation Plans - (Club of Rome) - YouTube
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Northern CA
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It is critical that everyone adopt a very aggressive view for zero population growth. We have been so successful as a species that the world cannot support us all. We must redirect our resourses to providing a quality upbringing for those that are born while looking for improved and new methods for population control. You are not stupid folks. Look around. Watch the news. Homeless. Unemployed. etc.
The news is not telling you what you need to know. Order out of chaos, it's part of the NWO plan. Gov't programs and regulations are causing the housing crisis and lack of employment, this is calculated to bring America to it's knees. Back east, they get 60% of their energy from coal, so what does Obama do? He shuts down the coal plants. New discoveries of large reserves of oil are found on federal land, Obama says no to drilling. Obama says no to Keystone. Think.
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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See, this is why you folks can't be trusted. In 2009 total aid to Africa from America was 8.2 billion. In 2011 it was 11 billion and the world bank matched that with 11 billion.

Now whether that's worthwhile or not or if it's being sent to the proper places or not is another thread.
Yes that is the total aid, and most of the USA aid is in private donations, which I did not include in the Canadian figures...There were also private donations from Canada...How much did your government donate?
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Your comment on vaccines is funny considering there are plenty of immunologist, biologist, physicians and millions of other educated people who know a lot about how vaccines work who I guess "just don't get it." You might think all vaccines are safe outweigh the risk, but I know a lot of people who know a hell of lot about immunology and medicine who beg to differ.
Balderdash! The people that I know who are opposed to immunizations are generally people with no science background, or a science background that does not include any immunology, or even biology. There are a few rougue physicians who "don't believe", but they tend to be in specialties that don't see people with infectious diseases.
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Old 05-21-2012, 10:35 PM
 
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It is critical that everyone adopt a very aggressive view for zero population growth. We have been so successful as a species that the world cannot support us all. We must redirect our resourses to providing a quality upbringing for those that are born while looking for improved and new methods for population control. You are not stupid folks. Look around. Watch the news. Homeless. Unemployed. etc.
Yet Bill Gates himself is very open-borders.

Americans have controlled population growth -- we're at replacement levels for Americans but meanwhile the borders are wide open and our very rapid population growth is all about importing poverty.

The problem is that far too many people who cannot afford children are having the most children because the government essentially pays them to breed.
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Old 05-22-2012, 04:14 AM
 
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Europe has a population of over 700 million with a area of 3,930,000 sq mi Africa has a population of over 1 T 11,668,599 sq mi

the whole world dosnt have a population over a trillion.
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