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Old 01-06-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Murika
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Many Brits are Germans inside

Half of Britons have German blood - Telegraph
From the "top" down...

The House of Windsor is the royal house of the Commonwealth realms. It was founded by King George V by royal proclamation on the 17 July 1917, when he changed the name of his family from the German Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (a branch of the House of Wettin) to the English Windsor, due to the anti-German sentiment in the United Kingdom during World War I.

House of Windsor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Yes, we are one big, happy family
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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I think it is healthy.

The Brits have had a superiority complex for centuries. They gained power through hegemony and sleaze for the most part. The Germans are regaining power through sustained hard work and good fiscal decisions.

I find it is interesting that Germany is more socially liberal with less income inequality than the UK even after admitting eastern Germany, and they are stronger economically.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This demonstrates that social democratic policies are not suicide, if the population is innovative and hardworking, as the Germans certainly are.

One source of confusion over all this, however, is that Germany avoided the huge housing bubble and meltdown Anglo-Saxon countries and affiliates (Ireland, Spain, Portugal,etc).
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:43 PM
 
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I'd agree with this. Germany has done absolutely nothing to deserve to be feared by the UK other than show how to be successful and treat their citizens well. This "distrust" is mainly "jealousy".
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Lol, they shouldn't feel inferior to Germany. Hey, they were smart enough not to follow the bumbling Germans into the Euro!
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Old 01-06-2012, 01:53 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I think it is healthy.

The Brits have had a superiority complex for centuries. They gained power through hegemony and sleaze for the most part. The Germans are regaining power through sustained hard work and good fiscal decisions.

I find it is interesting that Germany is more socially liberal with less income inequality than the UK even after admitting eastern Germany, and they are stronger economically.

List of countries by income equality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This demonstrates that social democratic policies are not suicide, if the population is innovative and hardworking, as the Germans certainly are.

One source of confusion over all this, however, is that Germany avoided the huge housing bubble and meltdown Anglo-Saxon countries and affiliates (Ireland, Spain, Portugal,etc).
I agree income equality is an important aspect. I doubt Germans would have a strong economy if they had gaps like in China or the US. After all, about one quarter of German employees have already quit their jobs mentally. If it weren't for the money, they would quit completely. Only 15% of German employees feel motivated at work...
http://www.n-tv.de/ratgeber/Fast-kei...cle266816.html (in German, sorry)
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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The article is written from a German point of view so we need to understand that there is a certain degree of bias.

But more than that, I think the article reflects a couple of things. The first is German annoyance that Britain was not willing to help bail out the Euro. The Germans, of course, are the big winners from the Euro but, now it is in trouble, want everyone else to help pay for it. The second is that Germany and specifically Frankfurt continues to cast covetous eyes over London's place as a world financial center. Part of the German attack on the financial services industry is about weakening London at the expense of Frankfurt. Finally, and worth noting, the UK is the only EU country that hasn't rolled over to Germany.
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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Lol, they shouldn't feel inferior to Germany. Hey, they were smart enough not to follow the bumbling Germans into the Euro!
The Germans had to agree to the Euro. The Germans didn't want the Euro. It was a condition of Mitterand (Premier Minister of France at the time) at the reunification talks in 1989. The french thought this way they would prevent a to strong Germany. That didn't work out so well, huh?

You get unification, we get the euro | Presseurop (English)
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:17 PM
 
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The article is written from a German point of view so we need to understand that there is a certain degree of bias.

But more than that, I think the article reflects a couple of things. The first is German annoyance that Britain was not willing to help bail out the Euro. The Germans, of course, are the big winners from the Euro but, now it is in trouble, want everyone else to help pay for it. The second is that Germany and specifically Frankfurt continues to cast covetous eyes over London's place as a world financial center. Part of the German attack on the financial services industry is about weakening London at the expense of Frankfurt. Finally, and worth noting, the UK is the only EU country that hasn't rolled over to Germany.
Just read the Daily Mail and you will see how much the British are still caught up in WW2. In some way they outright hate Germany. They know they are not the strongest country in Europe and they resent that. Again the Euro was forced on Germany. But you are right with the assertion that Merkel wants Frankfurt to make the financial Capital of Europe. The British are very scared of that, because they don't have much of a industry left, except the financial industry. I think what we see here, is that Great Britain is isolating itself more and more from Europe. Which is not good for Great Britain.

Cook warns that UK risks isolation in Europe - News - The Independent
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Old 01-06-2012, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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The Germans had to agree to the Euro. The Germans didn't want the Euro. It was a condition of Mitterand (Premier Minister of France at the time) at the reunification talks in 1989. The french thought this way they would prevent a to strong Germany. That didn't work out so well, huh?

You get unification, we get the euro | Presseurop (English)

The French had as much ability to prevent unification as they do to prevent the sunrise. Worse yet you are implying the German's were intimidated by the French.
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