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View Poll Results: Did you choose your sexual orientation?
I chose to be gay 3 2.03%
I did not choose to be gay 30 20.27%
I chose to be lesbian 3 2.03%
I did not choose to be lesbian 4 2.70%
I chose to be bi-sexual 1 0.68%
I did not choose to be bi-sexual 6 4.05%
I chose to be heterosexual 27 18.24%
I did not choose to be heterosexual 78 52.70%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 148. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-09-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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so a male in a short skirt and fishnets would turn you on????
How the frig did you come to that conclusion from my post, what about "girl" don't you understand?
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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nope..it means I am very sexual and will screw anything that moves..<snip>
Practice safe sex and make sure you paint a red X on the sheep that kick....
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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nope..it means I am very sexual and will screw anything that moves..
Ok.

So you choose every day to be bisexual, is that correct?

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and maybe something that doesnt move (might be you)
Why do you think I don't move?

Based upon your posts I don't think that your level of intelligence falls into the range which I find attractive, so I don't think we'll be having sex. Sorry.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:06 PM
 
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wrong

the fact is you confuse orientation with who you are friends with

example for males..we are PROGRAMED to say going out with the guys..our best freinds are guys...but 99% with not CONFUSE what a friendship is with attraction...but the 1%(+/-) that are gay will confuse, thinging that nad attraction for friends is and attraction for a lifestyle


hammer you are a male..but a admited gay person.....correct????

what makes you attracted to other male..you state its not about sex..then what is it that attracts you to males and not females....I am interested in the psychology if this

I never said it's not about sex. I desire to have sex with other men and only with men. That's certainly a main component of my sexuality. There is no urge within me to form a romantic - sexual and emotional - relationship with a women whatsoever. All I've been saying is that if I, for whatever reason, went out and had sex with a women - even to the point of marrying and having kids with her - it wouldn't change my sexuality. It would be an act discordant with my sexual orientation. Unfortunately, lots of gay people feel forced to do just that (and apparently straight people do it in some circumstances too - prison, drug addicts, etc).

As to what makes me attracted to other males, I can't really answer that from a "psychological" standpoint. All I can say is that it's my nature. It's a core component of my humanity. As long as I can remember, I've always been that way. I firmly believe (and there is plenty of evidence to support) that my being attracting to other males is 100% biological. A "neurological" imperative if you will. You seem to agree, but you, for some reason, call it a neurological mis-wiring or defect or disease whereas I see it as a perfectly normal and natural variant of human life (and not only human, but most higher animals).

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Old 01-09-2012, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I never said it's not about sex. I desire to have sex with men and only with men. That's certainly a main component of my sexuality. There is no urge within me to form a romantic - sexual and emotional - relationship with a women whatsoever. I'll I've been saying is that if I, for whatever reason, went out and had sex with women -even to the point of marrying and having kids with her - it wouldn't change my sexuality. It would be an act discordant with my sexual orientation. Unfortunately, lots of gay men feel forced to do just that (and apparently straight people do it some circumstances too - prison, drug addicts, etc).

As to what makes me attracted to other males, I can't really answer that from a "psychological" standpoint. All I can say it that it's my nature. It's a core component of my humanity. As long as I can remember, I've always been that way. I firmly believe (and there is plenty of evidence to support) that my being attracting to other males is 100% biological. A "neurological" imperative if you will. You seem to agree, but you, for some reason, call it a neurological mis-wiring or defect or disease whereas I see it as a perfectly normal and natural variant of human life (and not only human, but most higher animals).

Hammer, Thank you for your answer
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:37 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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And is there really a difference if someone has chosen to be straight or Gay. What is the freaking difference. I'm sorry but i just do not see the revelance to these posts.

I have gay friends, and i have straight friends. I have alwyas been straight, but if i see a goodlooking women or man, and they look good i will them them. People like compliments.

I just do not see how making the choice changes things. I have girlfriends from the past, who were married, sucessful couple, children, making good money, the picket fence, the whole 9 yards. The couple divorced, and the women is now with another women. Is that her choice, or is she becoming what she always was. Who in the hek are we to care and want to know. Or who are we to judge.

Same thing with some men, after a divorce, they come out as gay. Why do we care, should their not be a point in our lives when we just accept people for who they are, instead of trying to figure them out.

I would never go up to a really good gay friend of mine, and ask them are you gay because of choice, what kind of friend would i be. Unconditional friendship, is what i have with all of my friends gay or straight.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Why are straight men desiring anal sex with their wives? Answer that. You do know that lesbians are homosexuals too, and they do not practice anal sex as a norm, and many gay men do not practice it, I for one do not. You are one of those that equate homosexuality with gay men and show a disgust for it. Many people that oppose gay sex or gay people are truly opposing gay men in particular. That is just my opinion.
What purpose would two lesbians have for engaging in anal sex? Zero.

That should tell you everything you need to know.

Anal sex is suggested for and physically enjoyed by those with a penis and a prostate.

Females really have no use for anal sex except degradation and/or wanting to give pleasure to their male sex participant.

Women have no use for anal sex. Ask a lesbian.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:43 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Hammer never said that. Most men who are gay but pretend to live a straight life are in fact gay. They are only bi if they are attracted to both sexes. Living a lie doesn't mean attraction to both sexes.

Um, pretend you're having sex with Brad Pitt? Viagra? Self-stimulation to gain an erection before penetration?

I don't see anyone making that claim. If you're straight, it means you're exclusively or close to it attracted to the opposite sex. I don't know any straight guys that have sex with other guys on a whim. Some do it in certain environments like prison or the military, and some may do it for money "gay for pay", but aside from that, their behavior usually follows their orientation in both straights and gays.
The one that's most bizarre to me are the straight men who do gay porn.

That's definitely a choice.

I doubt there are any "self defining" gay men who do straight porn.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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Yes, I chose to be heterosexual. Seemed like the smart thing to do. Blowing men and being sodomized did not sound like much fun.
So you consciously made the decision to not have oral or anal sex with men??? I don't believe it...that's not how sexuality works.
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Old 01-09-2012, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Metro DC area
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Homosexuality seems to be a club of exclusivity.

Why do some of you deem it almost impossible for someone formally straight to become gay? Why do you surmise that they must have been gay to begin with? Even in the face of examples you say "Well, they can't be right. They were gay to begin with". Even when you hear evidence to the contrary.

Are you saying that the formally straight people don't know their own minds? What makes you all the authority and voice for all gay people? Admitting that being gay is sometimes a choice does not negate your reality if you were born that way.

And I will state again, a "gay" man that marries a woman, procreates and continues to have sex with her for years is not "giving into societal pressure". He's bisexual; otherwise he wouldn't be able to achieve an erection to even get those children. And I doubt if all the wives in these circumstances are giving forced BJs to spark their husband's sexual interest.
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