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Old 01-18-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So many people know so little about the Constitution but the latest actions by The One have brought many of them to looking at the document to determine what he has done that may not be Constitutional. The more people who learn about it the better off we will be as he avoids it with end runs.

"Yes, in the Bush years the air was also thick with accusations that the Constitution was being "shredded." We now know that the professed concern for the Constitution was fake. We know it was fake because the same Bush claims of executive authority in war that provoked such apoplexy in our pundits, professors and politicos have for the most part been embraced by Mr. Obama—all to the distinct sound of silence."

"When it comes to the founding document of the U.S. government, many of its teachers must go through life struggling to find ways to make its dusty clauses exciting and relevant. You can say Mr. Obama probably will not like where a greater public familiarity with the Constitution is likely to take us politically. But you can't say the former University of Chicago professor hasn't made it exciting."


William McGurn: Obama Brings Back the Constitution - WSJ.com
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:47 AM
 
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Well, for a "dusty" document, it is the most engaging reading for a long time now. Does it mean what it says? Forty years ago, I posed that question to Professor Laurence Tribe, the foremost exponent on constitutional law, who told me that the Constitution doesn't mean what it says. I thought that he was jesting at the time; but after the Supreme Court decision in Bush v. Gore, I have come to think that he meant what he said.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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So many people know so little about the Constitution but the latest actions by The One have brought many of them to looking at the document to determine what he has done that may not be Constitutional. The more people who learn about it the better off we will be as he avoids it with end runs.

"Yes, in the Bush years the air was also thick with accusations that the Constitution was being "shredded." We now know that the professed concern for the Constitution was fake. We know it was fake because the same Bush claims of executive authority in war that provoked such apoplexy in our pundits, professors and politicos have for the most part been embraced by Mr. Obama—all to the distinct sound of silence."

"When it comes to the founding document of the U.S. government, many of its teachers must go through life struggling to find ways to make its dusty clauses exciting and relevant. You can say Mr. Obama probably will not like where a greater public familiarity with the Constitution is likely to take us politically. But you can't say the former University of Chicago professor hasn't made it exciting."


William McGurn: Obama Brings Back the Constitution - WSJ.com
Obama is a constitutional violater, specifically Article 2 Section 1 of it.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So many people know so little about the Constitution...
That, clearly, doesn't prevent them from talking about it with such authority.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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That, clearly, doesn't prevent them from talking about it with such authority.
Indeed so. It demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the structure and function of government established by the Constitution.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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This country started going downhill when the law schools starting studying case law instead of the constitution as a basis for law.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:51 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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This country started going downhill when the law schools starting studying case law instead of the constitution as a basis for law.

YES!!!!


Look back when precedent law took over, so judges could legislate from the bench.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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That, clearly, doesn't prevent them from talking about it with such authority.
I'm not sure the teacher from Chicago U. knows about it other than what he can do to get around it. I am pretty sure that I have read it as many times as he has and that although I may interpret some of it different than many loose constructionist judges do, I at least know what the words are.

I do believe the man that more and more people are starting to read it so they can see why we dummies (as Newsweek calls us) are so concerned about what he is doing. The more people who really know about the document, the more will know what he is doing and plans to do later.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I'm not sure the teacher from Chicago U...
How about you?
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Indeed so. It demonstrates a fundamental lack of understanding of the structure and function of government established by the Constitution.
Do you use loose or strict construction of the Constitution? Obama and at least 4 Supreme Court justices are very loose.
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