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Old 01-18-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Hudson County, NJ
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So I got into a discussion the other day regarding affirmative action. Pros, cons, the workings of it, etc.

My final question was, should affirmative action also apply to sports? We have a lot of sports dominated by one color, whether it be Football, basketball, hockey, on a professional as well as collegiate or high school level. Why isn't AA in place and how far are we willing to go to "level" the playing field for everyone.
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:52 PM
 
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It may have been your final question because most people have more serious questions to concern themselves with than that.
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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So I got into a discussion the other day regarding affirmative action. Pros, cons, the workings of it, etc.

My final question was, should affirmative action also apply to sports? We have a lot of sports dominated by one color, whether it be Football, basketball, hockey, on a professional as well as collegiate or high school level. Why isn't AA in place and how far are we willing to go to "level" the playing field for everyone.
One answer to your question is that sports have more defined qualifications needed for success, so they have stricter requirements for who they let on a team.

Schools don't. They consider other things than just scores to decide on who is beneficial to the school and the student body.
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:59 PM
 
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So I got into a discussion the other day regarding affirmative action. Pros, cons, the workings of it, etc.

My final question was, should affirmative action also apply to sports? We have a lot of sports dominated by one color, whether it be Football, basketball, hockey, on a professional as well as collegiate or high school level. Why isn't AA in place and how far are we willing to go to "level" the playing field for everyone.
If this was 1940 yes, in 2012 I don't think so. I'm not a sports fan, so I'm probably the last person to ask. Take it with a grain of salt
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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Why not? If innate talent, experience, and ability aren't good enough for college entrance and employment, then why should that be the only qualifier for sports too?
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:24 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So I got into a discussion the other day regarding affirmative action. Pros, cons, the workings of it, etc.

My final question was, should affirmative action also apply to sports? We have a lot of sports dominated by one color, whether it be Football, basketball, hockey, on a professional as well as collegiate or high school level. Why isn't AA in place and how far are we willing to go to "level" the playing field for everyone.
I remember the very early 1960s when the principal of the infamous school where the Brown v. Board of Education all came from. They had a basketball team that had 10 blacks on the varsity with just two whites. One of the whites was good enough that he was a starter, though. One day the principal was hit up by the NAACP about having at least the number of black cheerleaders that would be called for by the normal school enrollment. Well, that man was no dummy. He said if we have to use that measure for cheerleaders we will also apply it to the basketball team they cheer for. Needless to say the contingent from the NAACP hit the door pretty soon. I always thought that was a very good way to talk to people about AA.

If you apply affirmative action to professional hockey the level of competition will drop off pretty fast as few blacks play the game on any level. Apply it to pro basketball and the level would drop suddenly, also just as it would in football. The best players at any sport are the ones to do the playing no matter what their race. Jeez, I can't believe what would happen in those sports where the players don't really pay a lot of attention to the race of their team mates. Keep politics the hell out of sports.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:14 PM
 
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We've already tried Affirmative Action in sports. The owners scrapped it.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:19 PM
 
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Yes, they should.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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We've already tried Affirmative Action in sports. The owners scrapped it.
That would have to be professional sports to have owners. How in hell can government tell private businesses in sports who plays and who doesn't? I agree with you and now so well that the amounts of money being spent today can't have bureaucrats telling owners who can and can't play.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Yes, they should.
It would be my guess that you believe that the bureaucrats should be able to tell hospitals what racial majorities and minorities they could hire as doctors. Am I right? You would surely agree that when AA was used to determine who got into colleges that government should have been able to tell coaches how many of each race they could recruit. You are not much of a business man.
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