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I don't care that a private florist didn't want to make a delivery for whatever reason, it's the whole "she asked for it, now she's going to get it" attitude displayed here and IRL that's kind of frightning.
The florists were wrong to not deliver to the girl. If they were afraid to deliver based on some violent act, then they might have a leg to stand on. But that was apparently not the case. One of the florists said it might be bad for business to deliver to the girl. Not good enough. How about if a restaurant refuses to serve blacks based on the same premise? It's a violation of civil rights based on religion rather than ehtnicity.
No, being a private business, they have CHOICE whether to sell/service a customer.
That is their RIGHT and I hope they don't cave in.
"Wherever there’s a case in the U.S. involving atheist activism, the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) is bound to get involved. While it was the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) that defended teen atheist Jessica Ahlquist in her successful quest to have a prayer mural removed from her Rhode Island public high school, the FFRF is also rushing to the young girl’s defense. Citing discrimination, the organization is filing a civil rights complaint after numerous florists refused to deliver flowers to the girl."
There are consequences for every decision we make. This young lady made a decision not to ignore this mural, but to get it removed.
The U.S. Constitution says nothing about separation of church and state, The First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."
It seems to me that having the mural removed violates law, not having the mural there.
This person forced the unlawful removal a mural offensive, only if you want to be offended by it. Ignore it, move on. She decided not to, took action, and now must suffer the consequences. If her class mates want no longer to be friends with her, if businesses wish to no longer deliver flowers to her, that's also a consequence of her actions.
So are you saying she deserves to be harassed by so called "Christians"? Sure sounds like it.
Christians? What Christians? 98% of the so-called Christians in this country are nothing of the sort--including the ones on this thread who justify the threats and harassment this girl received. They are lying, stinking hypocrites. In fact, I'll bet that aside from these little culture war stunts, Jesus doesn't even cross their mind.
You people are sick and wouldn't know who Jesus was if he came down and spoke to you himself.
How do we know the attacks came from Christians. Cindy Sheehan protested against the war and it was the left that made her quit, by all the nasty things they were saying about her.
There was no mention, that Christians attacked this girl. You fail to remember, the left plays both sides, just to make things look worse.
So, should Christians just sit back and not fight for their right's for the banner to stay??? If she had the right to fight to take it down, Christian's have every right to fight, to keep it up.
So many people are weird. She did the right thing, but the unpopular thing, and now those who thought the prayer banner was a-ok (ie: christians, I assume) take the neener-neener approach. This is EXACTLY the kind the prayer banner stood for....conform with us OR ELSE. Put up with us OR ELSE. Never say anything against us OR ELSE. And why religion as a whole is such a dangerous thing. There is a place for religion, and it's not in a school where only some people apprecitate it. Why the mental block christians? You know this wouldn't have happened if people (not just her) were not sick to death of it.
Not if you serve the public. We have moved past the separate, but equal phase in our society. It is time for you to catch up. It is 2012, not the 1950's.
As the federal court ruled, it was unconstitutional and it needed to removed or altered. The school could have easily altered the school prayer, but choose not to.
As with the religiousness has shown over and over, it either their way or threats of violence, persecution, ostracizing, and harassment. Some of you need to learn a little something about tolerance.
I'm sure that you weren't accusing me of racism. I was merely pointing out a fact, that if someone in my town is acts as she did, I reserve the right to not serve her.
She is a pariah and deserves to be shunned.
I need to learn tolerance? What about the people who want any mention of God removed?
Probably nobody had the guts or cared enough to say anything. You have no idea about that. I can GUARENTEE there were non religious people throughout the years who silently rolled their eyes though.
It shouldn't be a national news item either, it didn't even need to go this far, but people can't help it can they? Now they get to have an enemy...a young girl...to blame for all that's wrong in the world. Nice.
people have to understand that with rights and freedoms, come responsibilities and consequences. businesses have the right to refuse business to ANYONE at any time.
likewise the girl in question has the right to object to things that she finds offensive.
if a business refuses her service, they lose money as a consequence. if the girl objects openly about something that offends her, but perhaps does not offend others, she should expect to be shunned as a result. hopefully the courts will agree with the businesses and dismiss the lawsuit with prejudice.
people have to understand that with rights and freedoms, come responsibilities and consequences. businesses have the right to refuse business to ANYONE at any time.
likewise the girl in question has the right to object to things that she finds offensive.
if a business refuses her service, they lose money as a consequence. if the girl objects openly about something that offends her, but perhaps does not offend others, she should expect to be shunned as a result. hopefully the courts will agree with the businesses and dismiss the lawsuit with prejudice.
I think the florists will win, but you go overboard by saying businesses have the right to refuse business to ANYONE at any time. Simply not true.
Shunning her is fine. Harassment and threats aren't.
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