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Old 01-27-2012, 08:08 PM
 
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If they won't stay in a traditional school, they should be strongly encouraged to take work/study classes.

 
Old 01-27-2012, 08:10 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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In Texas one can drop out at 17.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 08:13 PM
 
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I haven't heard of any vocational schools that are a substitute for high school where I am from. Some may exist but I've never known any
Is your definition of a vocational school more like a 2 year "business school" (to train specifically for management jobs or executive assistant jobs or being a court stenographer) or a trade school, where one does need a HS education/GED? My husband's cousin's child just graduated from one of those - he's an apprentice welder. He didn't want to go to college because he knows he wasn't cut out for it after struggling academically through HS.

The vo-tech schools being referred to are actual high schools where students who either don't want to, or don't have the aptitude to attend a traditional HS can go instead- where a student really isn't expected to achieve too much more than minimum standards academically, but they can also take classes like cosmetology or something along those lines that will point them in the direction of a trade or a job by the time they graduate.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 08:35 PM
 
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The Vo-Tech school in my district is set up such that students attend 1/2 day in Vo-Tech classes and 1/2 day in "regular" HS. There is no way a student can learn any type of trade that requires more than a HS diploma until they have that HS diploma. I have posted links MANY times, especially on the Ed Forum with the requirements to become a certified electrician/plumber. These programs require four years of full-time study, including the apprenticeship. There is no way a HS student could do this and take HS courses as well.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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The Vo-Tech school in my district is set up such that students attend 1/2 day in Vo-Tech classes and 1/2 day in "regular" HS. There is no way a student can learn any type of trade that requires more than a HS diploma until they have that HS diploma. I have posted links MANY times, especially on the Ed Forum with the requirements to become a certified electrician/plumber. These programs require four years of full-time study, including the apprenticeship. There is no way a HS student could do this and take HS courses as well.
Right. I guess that's the difference between a vocational school and a vo-tech or a technical HS. The latter two introduce kids to a field/trade/skill WHILE they are getting their HS credentials/diploma (some do it all under one roof, others do not) and the former necessitates one has a HS diploma first, and then one can apply/attend.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 09:19 PM
 
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I say let them go. If they don't want to be there, cut them loose. By the 9th grade, they're old enough to decide. All they're doing is wasting taxpayer $$$.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 09:28 PM
 
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I don't see anything that makes me disagree with it.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 09:37 PM
 
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Hmmm....googling "technical high school" shows that the Bay State dominates the search with single hits from MN, CA, CT, MI.

Perhaps, I was raised in abnormal culture compared to the rest of the states, regarding H.S.
I googled technical high schools in my state/city and the results showed a few standard high schools.

Can you enlighten me about a technical high school...is it four years/two years? What trades do they offer? Are students employed immediately after graduation?

Any student who hates learnings & chooses to drop out of high school wouldn't want to attend a technical high school or trade school anyway. They both require hard work and studying.
 
Old 01-27-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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I say let them go. If they don't want to be there, cut them loose. By the 9th grade, they're old enough to decide. All they're doing is wasting taxpayer $$$.
I am so sick of people bringing up their taxpaying money; you are never going to stop paying taxes. If its not going to education, trust me it will go to something else in replace of it. Get over it. And you all sound so selfish
 
Old 01-27-2012, 10:34 PM
 
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I googled technical high schools in my state/city and the results showed a few standard high schools.

Can you enlighten me about a technical high school...is it four years/two years? What trades do they offer? Are students employed immediately after graduation?

Any student who hates learnings & chooses to drop out of high school wouldn't want to attend a technical high school or trade school anyway. They both require hard work and studying.
In my district the vo-tech school is the last three years of HS.A studenthas to fulfil all the graduation requirments for high school as well. Here is what is offered in my district:

•Automotive Technology
•Collision Repair Technology
•Criminology: To be announced
•Esthetician
•Graphic Communications
•Green House Management
•Hair Styling
•Health Care Careers: Nursing Assistant, Health Forensics, Health Science Technology
•IT Academy (Web & Gaming Applications and Computer Information Systems)
•Nail Technician
•Water Science: To be announced
Career and Technical Education Center

I completely agree with your last paragraph and have in fact said so in the Ed Forum.
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