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Old 02-08-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Lakeside
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And it never will if PP can bury the research. I never said all breast cancer is caused by abortion but if it is proven some are findings won't be released. PP has a dog in the fight to bury such info.
And how would they do that? Magic?
They are audited by independent and government auditors on a regular basis. Or are they in on the conspiracy as well?
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The Komen fund is just that - a fund. While they do some programming themselves, they give money to make other organizations as well.

Why would you ever give to anyone that you have not researched?
Not researched? Do you see Planned Parenthood anywhere on its list of affiliates or partners on its web page? I didn't.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:09 PM
 
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Everything causes cancer. Everything.
Part of the cancer puzzle is the realization that there are not only many forms, and sources of it's inducement, but that this category is so broad it has often times made meaningful research (connecting the dots of cause/ effect) run circles around itself when it desires absolutes/ magic bullets.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:10 PM
 
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One of the big rules of non profits is to never compromise your orgs mission. If the acusation is true, she took actions that had nothing to do with the mission and everything to do with abortion. So that's the problem unless she can show how her actions had something to do with advancing breast cancer awareness or prevention.
Okay, this makes sense. But it seems to me she enhanced the organization's mission.

SGK is a foundation. Foundations exist to donate funds. PP is under investigation. Not only that, but they are specifically under investigation for mishandling funding. It's not like the investigation is unrelated.

So how is pulling their donations not a prudent and responsible decision?

From what I can see, in this situation not pulling the funding would be unethical.

My job is to allocate funds to breast cancer awareness and prevention. So I'm supposed to give more money to a group that's already being investigated for diverting funds to abortion that weren't supposed to be used for that purpose???

Here's the thing. I just can't help thinking that if SGK had announced they were pulling funding from Generic Charity A because they were under investigation for routing funds to pay for European vacations for the bigwigs that everyone would be loudly applauding. So it's really not the SGK exec who injected abortion into the issue, it's the outraged people here on this forum and elswhere that did it.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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Planned Parenthood gets $300 million dollars a year from the federal government and yet screamed like stuck pigs over a defunding of a few hundred grand. If a small hit to the wallet like that is such a threat to their existence I think maybe they're not managing their budget too well either.
It's called principles, and something that ought not be a foreign concept to anything claiming itself to be conservative, Judeo- Christian, or 'family values'.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:13 PM
 
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PP is the largest abortion provider in the country. They won't ever drop abortions, it's their biggest money maker.
No, it's not their biggest money maker. It represents a tiny portion of the services they offer.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:14 PM
 
Location: North America
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3%? More like 90%. They can say they do other services since then send home packets of literature to those who get abortions. They list each pamphlet as a separate service to show how good they are doing on other issues.
Nice to see you are using john kyls unproven rhetoric rather than real actual facts :roll eyes:FactCheck.org : Planned Parenthood. Considering that the us provides about 1.21 million abortions per year, and pp only does around roughly 300,000 of them, and they have nearly 900 clinics i can pretty confidently say you don't know what you are talking about .
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: North America
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It's called principles, and something that ought not be a foreign concept to anything claiming itself to be conservative, Judeo- Christian, or 'family values'.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:17 PM
 
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3%? More like 90%. They can say they do other services since then send home packets of literature to those who get abortions. They list each pamphlet as a separate service to show how good they are doing on other issues.
That's bull-hockey. I know conservative bloggers have come up with this falsehood, but it's a bogus assertion.
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Old 02-08-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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Nice to see you are using john kyls unproven rhetoric rather than real actual facts :roll eyes:FactCheck.org : Planned Parenthood. Considering that the us provides about 1.21 million abortions per year, and pp only does around roughly 300,000 of them, and they have nearly 900 clinics i can pretty confidently say you don't know what you are talking about .
That should say it all. Society is doing such a good job on sex ed and preventing unwanted pregnancies.

"Planned Parenthood’s chart shows that abortions made up 3 percent of its total services. Another way to measure the group’s abortion services, however, is to divide the total number of abortions by the number of clients. For example, Planned Parenthood said that it “provided nearly 11.4 million medical services for 3 million people” in 2009. Its 2011 fact sheet says it performed 332,278 abortion procedures in 2009. That would mean that roughly one out of every 10 clients received an abortion."

Define "medical services" Sending home phamplets is not medical service but it can be listed that way.
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