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Old 02-08-2012, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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In a county dominated and controlled by Republicans, you really think that's what happened?
Yup, sure do. So do a lot of savvy folks that know a lot more about it than I do. If you do not think that the illegals are voting in large numbers all over the nation, an update and reality check is in order.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:26 PM
 
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Yup, sure do. So do a lot of savvy folks that know a lot more about it than I do. If you do not think that the illegals are voting in large numbers all over the nation, an update and reality check is in order.
Well the Republicans in Orange County must be pretty stupid then. Sanchez has won reelection several times. If they haven't figured out how to stop all of those illegals from voting for her after all of these years, I'm not sure that they should be in charge of anything.
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Old 02-08-2012, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Well the Republicans in Orange County must be pretty stupid then. Sanchez has won reelection several times. If they haven't figured out how to stop all of those illegals from voting for her after all of these years, I'm not sure that they should be in charge of anything.
You live in Palm Springs, you know how pro illegal California is. Efforts to require valid ID at the polls before being permitted to vote have been met by strong opposition from Democrats. As the minority party, the GOP has been powerless to eliminate voter fraud.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Declezville, CA
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Didn't Kennedy carry IL because so many dead people from Chicago voted for him?
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:24 PM
 
Location: North America
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Didn't Kennedy carry IL because so many dead people from Chicago voted for him?
Yes kind of like how george bush just happened to win florida in 2000 .
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:31 PM
 
Location: The Other California
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Schmitz was so far to the right, even the John Birch Society dumped him. He was a family values, far-right conservative Roman Catholic Republican who carried on a long affair with a former student and fathered two children with her while married to his wife.
I've been reading up on Schmitz and am starting to recall a few things. Fascinating character, and a tragic one. I don't get why the JBS dropped him. The confrontation with Allread? C'mon.

He was definitely a choleric with impenetrable confidence and massive blind spots. Good humored fellow, though.

Just discovered that he was also the godfather to Dr. Warren Carroll, founder of Christendom College (where I once applied for a job), and one of the nation's premier historians IMHO.
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Old 02-08-2012, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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That's nice, but it's certainly changing. McCain beat Obama in Orange County by only 2 percentage points. And Democrat Loretta Sanchez has won reelection in her Orange County district at least six times.
Agreed. Like the rest of Southern California, Orange County is becoming more and more liberal with each passing year, it just lags a little behind San Diego and Los Angeles counties. In 2012 or 2016, Orange County will flip. California is not the state it was in the 1970s and 1980s.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:13 PM
 
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Dallas County (Dallas), Oklahoma County (Oklahoma City), Pulaski County (Little Rock) always vote Democratic in Presidential Elections.

Are these areas more liberal than Orange County?

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Agreed. Like the rest of Southern California, Orange County is becoming more and more liberal with each passing year, it just lags a little behind San Diego and Los Angeles counties. In 2012 or 2016, Orange County will flip. California is not the state it was in the 1970s and 1980s.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC (in my mind)
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Dallas County (Dallas), Oklahoma County (Oklahoma City), Pulaski County (Little Rock) always vote Democratic in Presidential Elections.

Are these areas more liberal than Orange County?
Oklahoma county does not vote Democratic. I lived there for a few years so I know the culture there. It was one of the few urban counties to vote for McCain in 2008. Orange county is not as conservative as it once was, but it is still moreso than Los Angeles or San Diego counties. California as a whole continues to move left and its just a matter of time before Orange county joins Los Angeles and San Diego in flipping Democratic.
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Old 02-08-2012, 09:29 PM
 
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The counties Jackson, Miss., Memphis, Kansas City, Houston, Atlanta all voted Democratic.

You're right about OKC. They went Republican last election.

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Oklahoma county does not vote Democratic. I lived there for a few years so I know the culture there. It was one of the few urban counties to vote for McCain in 2008. Orange county is not as conservative as it once was, but it is still moreso than Los Angeles or San Diego counties. California as a whole continues to move left and its just a matter of time before Orange county joins Los Angeles and San Diego in flipping Democratic.
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