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Orange County continues to defy liberal stereotypes of California. An article from last June describes Orange County's robust traditionalism:
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In a state where the dynamics of marriage, family and home are shifting, Orange County remains a "vestige of tradition," as one sociologist put it.
Analysts, however, say the county's loyalty to convention is not due to a push to maintain its image as a pillar of social conservatism. Instead, they point to the bustling Latino commercial districts in Santa Ana, the Vietnamese American coffee shops in Garden Grove and the halal butchers in Anaheim — to an influx of immigrants who have imported the old-fashioned family structures of their homelands.
Orange County's ethnic enclaves are founded on religious and cultural values that include strong family ties, said Jack Bedell, a sociology professor at Cal State Fullerton. "It means 'I take in 'grandma because I want to, not because I have to,'" said Bedell ...
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Congrats to Orange County for keeping sanity alive in California!
I don't see how anybody can make generalizations about OC. It has such a great variety of people and neighborhoods that it defies generalizations. It has working class neighborhoods, ethnic enclaves, dirt poor, an open drug and gangsta problem in some areas and the super-rich coastal towns from San Clemente up to Newport Beach.
I can't think of another county right off hand which has such diversity.
Conservatives preach family values and morality. Then, they do bad stuff in their private life (like adultery). They are hypocrites.
Liberals preach how they support social programs and we should help the weak, destitute and poor.... then they don't donate much at all to charity like Conservatives do... they are just as hypocritic as Reps are
Try not to think rationally or non partisan or anything
Liberals preach how they support social programs and we should help the weak, destitute and poor.... then they don't donate much at all to charity like Conservatives do... they are just as hypocritic as Reps are
Try not to think rationally or non partisan or anything
Let's see - the thread was started claiming that conservatives have the moral highground in "traditional values" and you're posting like you're upset at that being discussed.
The thread was started as a partisan exercise.
Sheesh.
Let's take the $$ donated to churches and see what contributions are?
Let's see - the thread was started claiming that conservatives have the moral highground in "traditional values" and you're posting like you're upset at that being discussed.
The thread was started as a partisan exercise.
Sheesh.
Let's take the $$ donated to churches and see what contributions are?
Thanks for comparing apples and oranges.
Well, since I am a non partisan, I thought it was only fair to mention that both sides have hypocritical traits.... try not too deflect to much
Yup, sure do. So do a lot of savvy folks that know a lot more about it than I do. If you do not think that the illegals are voting in large numbers all over the nation, an update and reality check is in order.
You have proof of this "fact" that illegals are voting in large numbers in the US?
Please post it.
I'd like to read this.
Too bad about Schmitz's personal life. Glad he did the right thing politically, though.
Really miss old "B1 Bob".
I'm sure OC is only a shadow of its old self. But if I had to choose between living with social conservatives who vote for Dems and social libertarians who vote GOP, I'd choose the former in a heartbeat.
See? Schmitz private life should only concer him and his wife. Now, if you preach about good ole morals and then you do just the opposite then his position is pretty pointless when not blatantly hypocritical.
See? Schmitz private life should only concer him and his wife. Now, if you preach about good ole morals and then you do just the opposite then his position is pretty pointless when not blatantly hypocritical.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Adultery is a sin, and Schmitz' adultery was a scandal. He lost his position over it, as he should have, due to the values of his conservative constituency.
Laws and customs should make adultery difficult, and most especially should not reward adultery with divorce. So far as I know, Schmitz believed the same and took his medicine, despite his scandalous failing in that department.
Hypocrisy, they say, is the tribute that vice pays to virtue.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Adultery is a sin, and Schmitz' adultery was a scandal. He lost his position over it, as he should have, due to the values of his conservative constituency.
Laws and customs should make adultery difficult, and most especially should not reward adultery with divorce. So far as I know, Schmitz believed the same and took his medicine, despite his scandalous failing in that department.
Hypocrisy, they say, is the tribute that vice pays to virtue.
He means that what a person does in their private life should remain private UNLESS they're spewing "morality" and not living by their words.
It's a pretty simple concept once you get a basic understanding.
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