50% oppose government mandate for religious organizations to provide contraceptives (Congress, minimum wage, ethic)

[MTAtech]

Originally Posted by cougfan

Silly you....you're expecting supposed adults to take responsibilty for their "my body, my choice" mantra. Now people want gov't in the bedroom - since I guess children are no longer a "choice".

No, it is you who is being unrealistic. One cannot buy birth-control only health insurance. That's a provision built into the comprehensive plan.

Anyone can buy their own health insurance, if they want to pay an arm and a leg.

[BullCity75]

You aren't really a church when you are running a non-religious enterprise that serves and employs non-believers. I'm just disappointed the Obama administration has done such a bad job of explaining this to people.

[MTAtech]

Originally Posted by BullCity75

You aren't really a church when you are running a non-religious enterprise that serves and employs non-believers. I'm just disappointed the Obama administration has done such a bad job of explaining this to people.

Which kind of disproves the meme of a liberal media.

[Ceece]

Originally Posted by florida.bob

The WH is calling for a compromise now. Keep in mind, the art of a good salesman, is letting the buyer think the purchase was the buyer's idea.

It works. I'm old enough to remember when most people would have died before accepting civil unions for homosexuals, yet now they are BEGGING for it ("don't take marriage from us!!!").

There is compromise, then a push, then more compromise, then another push, etc. Until everything is as it should be.

[MJJersey]

I'm far from catholic and I don't support most of what that church preaches. However, I'm with them on this one for two reason. First, and most importantly, I don't see why the government should force any business to pay for health insurance to cover what is essentially an elective medical treatment. I'm not talking about women who take the pill for medical reasons (ie. to reduce heavy menstrual bleeding and severe pain), but only take it to prevent pregnancy. If you force the health insurance companies to pay for that, then I want reimbursement for condoms.

Secondly, I do believe that the church should have a right to decline such coverage and if the employees want that coverage then they can go work for a non-religious employer. This is the same as with the OR nurses who worked for a public hospital that preformed abortions and the nurses complained about doing their job. If you have an ethical disagreement with a particular employer, then don't work for them.

[MTAtech]

Originally Posted by MJJersey

I'm far from catholic and I don't support most of what that church preaches. However, I'm with them on this one for two reason. First, and most importantly, I don't see why the government should force any business to pay for health insurance to cover what is essentially an elective medical treatment. I'm not talking about women who take the pill for medical reasons (ie. to reduce heavy menstrual bleeding and severe pain), but only take it to prevent pregnancy. If you force the health insurance companies to pay for that, then I want reimbursement for condoms.

Secondly, I do believe that the church should have a right to decline such coverage and if the employees want that coverage then they can go work for a non-religious employer. This is the same as with the OR nurses who worked for a public hospital that preformed abortions and the nurses complained about doing their job. If you have an ethical disagreement with a particular employer, then don't work for them.

Where were you in 2000 when the Clinton Admin did it and Bush's EEOC ruled the same way?

In December 2000, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission ruled that companies that provided prescription drugs to their employees but didn't provide birth control were in violation of Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which prevents discrimination on the basis of sex. That opinion, which the George W. Bush administration did nothing to alter or withdraw when it took office the next month, is still in effect today—and because it relies on Title VII of the Civil Rights Act, it applies to all employers with 15 or more employees. Employers that don't offer prescription coverage or don't offer insurance at all are exempt, because they treat men and women equally—but under the EEOC's interpretation of the law, you can't offer other preventative care coverage without offering birth control coverage, too.
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[Rick Roma]

Barack Obama is at work re-writing the Constitution once again. Frankly, I'm shocked!

Muslims have the right to practice their religion" just like anyone else

"That's who we are fighting against," he said. "And the reason that we will win this fight is not simply the strength of our arms, it is the strength of our values."

Obama: Muslims have right to build mosque near 9/11 site


However, these values seem to have suddenly changed:

The Obama Administration is requiring Catholic Universities, Hospitals, and Charities to offer free birth control with health care.

The White House is signaling it may take steps to curb Roman Catholic concerns, who say birth control mandates force them to violate religious beliefs.

Catholic Institutions required to offer free birth control

[sanrene]

Completely true, but you could say that about virtually every issue. The "constitutional lawyer" is all about shredding the document.

[crone]

Well, the Mormons had to give up polygamy.

[ovcatto]

Whose religious freedom?

The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops are demanding a total ban on mandated birth control coverage for EVERY AMERICAN!

Catholic Bishops Want Entire Birth Control Rule Repealed, Not Just the Religious Exemption | Mother Jones

You also fail to point out that religious employees are exempt from the law. Doctors, nurses, professors are not religious employees and have the same right to federal laws as any other employee.