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Old 02-14-2012, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Oh really? I'm assuming you're a woman? How about my cramps that would quite literally leave me curled up in the fetal position sobbing for 2-3 days out of the month?
Birth control is a really bad way of getting rid of cramps. Herbs are much better, safer, and actually help the cause of cramping rather than stopping or controlling your flow. Also diet is the biggest cause of problem cramps. So what you're eating is a bigger concern. Bc should not be used to control cramps either. Pain is usually a sign of something else being wrong, u don't cramp for no reason. There are a lot of wonderful books out there to help women get in touch with their bodies.

 
Old 02-14-2012, 06:52 PM
 
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Birth isn't covered unless you buy a more expensive policy or are on welfare.
Control insurance should be available at an extra cost and not be available through any government taxpayer subsidy.
All insurance is government subsidized, employers get a tax credit
that amounts to about 300 billion dollars a year.,and this was way before Obama was President, the majority of Americans would not have health insurance if it was not for this.
 
Old 02-14-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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More importantly, health insurance is not for the expected, its for the unexpected sickness/illness.
Most people with health insurance are in plans that are more than coverage for the unexpected. You are thinking of health insurance in the way of fire insurance, and the reality is it's not operated that way.

If I plan a trip to India, my health insurance covers the shots to prevent against diseases.

If winter jogging exacerbates one's asthma, they can get meds to maintain it and continue jogging with less risk of an attack, and it's covered.

If a person gets serious motion sickness on sea cruises, they can see a doctor and get meds in advance.

There are many examples of health insurance covering preventive medicine as opposed to only serving for the unexpected. Because unlike you, insurers realize it's cheaper to pay for that than to cover an asthmatic's hospitalization or for treatment of an exotic disease that you might have also spread to others.
 
Old 02-14-2012, 06:57 PM
 
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Sex is a recreational activity for many, act of love and more between those who love each other. Why the hell should birth control fall under something to be covered by an insurance company let alone be free(aka cost goes to everyone else)?

Should we then have vitamins covered? A round of golf? Heck, perhaps the cost of the chase to this said recreational activity, (door fee for club, drinks, dinner, movie, candy, gifts, etc) should be covered.

More importantly, health insurance is not for the expected, its for the unexpected sickness/illness. You know you want to or are going to have sex, how idiotic that your CHOICE to use birth control means someone else should pay for it. If you cant afford $20 a month or whatever else it costs to be safe, then find something else in your life to cut costs. Cut your cable, your smart phone data plan, junk food, smokes, alcohol, etc. So typical that the liberals want everyone else to pay for this.

Like others have said, this didnt just come out of no where. The liberals are playing their typical bs games trying to make it seem that conservatives want birth control to be banned.

The bottom line is that this is not a fricking health issue, its your personal recreational activity and it has no business in health coverage.
I AGREE! Now, stop letting your insurance cover your Viagra prescription!

Yes, insurance covers Viagra and NO ONE complains. I say if it's limp then God has told you to give it up. Why should I pay for a limp one?
 
Old 02-14-2012, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes sex between loving couples is the equivalent of white water rafting, watching a movie on Netflix, or going out to dinner.

Of course never mind that birth control is cheaper than paying for the abortion, or delivering a child which is perhaps why it the insurance companies aren't the one's jumping up and down about this regulation just a bunch of old so-called celibate (except when they are buggering little boys) and a bunch of constitution loving phonies and opportunist.
Nothing is cheaper than being a responsible adult who understands the consequences of their actions...but that's never the democrat way, is it?

The op asks a legit question. Insurance should be for nothing more than emergencies. Like every other insurance. Do you realize how much cheaper everything would be if that were true? For everyone? And how much more sense it makes?
 
Old 02-14-2012, 07:02 PM
 
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All insurance is government subsidized, employers get a tax credit that amounts to about 300 billion dollars a year.,and this was way before Obama was President, the majority of Americans would not have health insurance if it was not for this.
When we keep our own money that isn't the government's PLEASE LEARN THIS.
The reason many businesses go out of business or the country is due to high taxation and unions.
The government has no money, they take yours.
 
Old 02-14-2012, 07:08 PM
 
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Nothing is cheaper than being a responsible adult who understands the consequences of their actions...but that's never the democrat way, is it?

The op asks a legit question. Insurance should be for nothing more than emergencies. Like every other insurance. Do you realize how much cheaper everything would be if that were true? For everyone? And how much more sense it makes?
What do things like long-term care or maintenance of chronic disease fall under? They aren't emergencies. Pay individually, out of pocket, for dialysis?
 
Old 02-14-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Nothing is cheaper than being a responsible adult who understands the consequences of their actions
Responsible, huh? You mean, like using birth control when you aren't prepared for a child and don't want to get an abortion? This includes MARRIED couples, many of whom use various forms of BC between planned pregnancies. Again, you right-wingers can't seem to make up your minds on this issue!
 
Old 02-14-2012, 07:33 PM
 
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What about the married couples who aren't prepared for a (or another) child? Are you recommending they stay celibate, if paying for their own BC isn't an option? First you guys complain people have babies they can't afford, but at the same time you'll condemn abortion or responsible safe sex - so what exactly do you want people to do, oh wise and perfect ones?
Just like anybody who engages in other planned recreational activities, they can pay for it. If not, planned parenthood gives it out right??

Nobody says it should be outlawed... and stop assuming I think abortion should be outlawed... you look foolish with all the crazy leftist assumptions. Stop with the you guys crap too... I am not on their side or yours... I am not one of the side pickers
 
Old 02-14-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Responsible, huh? You mean, like using birth control when you aren't prepared for a child and don't want to get an abortion? This includes MARRIED couples, many of whom use various forms of BC between planned pregnancies. Again, you right-wingers can't seem to make up your minds on this issue!
Um, a responsible adult plans for and purchases their own birth control if someone isn't doling it out for free. Not demand someone else bankroll their sex lives.
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