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Old 03-02-2012, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I would say that these sentences need to be read and thought out by every voter in our nation at least once a day. Try them out for veracity.


These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read:
Unfortunately, most voters don't know this.

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them; and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
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Old 03-02-2012, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I would say that these sentences need to be read and thought out by every voter in our nation at least once a day. Try them out for veracity.


These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read:
Unfortunately, most voters don't know this.

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them; and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
1. Yes you can. Its directly tied to your second line. When corporations and people are paying less taxes or through subsidy, then the entire tax base must pay for that. You can legislate people out of poverty, its called education spending, and its actually proven to give the tax payer their highest rate of return on investment.

2. When one person has had the breaks of paying 15% taxes, then yes, they are getting an unfair advantage. The middle class tax payers are left with the bill for them, and the poor. The middle class gets screwed, no government assistance, and no tax breaks.

3. In a country where imminent domain is the rule of law, then everything belongs to the government first.

4. Yes, you can multiply wealth by dividing it. Haven't you heard of "diversifying your investments"? You never put your eggs in one basket. The more investment by more people, the more jobs are created. The situation we find ourselves in now is that a small group of people can invest, most people can not, and that cuts the wealth creation, not increasing it.

5. Who said that half the people don't have to work? I'd like to see where only 150 million Americans are working. Unemployment is less then 10%, and long term added to that is likely 15%. That means that around 85% of people are working.
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Old 03-02-2012, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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5. Who said that half the people don't have to work? I'd like to see where only 150 million Americans are working. Unemployment is less then 10%, and long term added to that is likely 15%. That means that around 85% of people are working.
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cessum.txt (broken link)

Actually, that's a pretty good estimate. The labor force participation rate is relatively high anyway. You're crazy if you think 85% of people are working...heck, 6.5% of the population is under 5 years old.
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Old 03-02-2012, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.cessum.txt (broken link)

Actually, that's a pretty good estimate. The labor force participation rate is relatively high anyway. You're crazy if you think 85% of people are working...heck, 6.5% of the population is under 5 years old.
I think most people understand I mean those of working age, between 16 and 65 years old.
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Old 03-02-2012, 08:11 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I think most people understand I mean those of working age, between 16 and 65 years old.
Then why would you "like to see where only 150 million Americans are working" ?
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Windsor
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Sounds like bumper sticker campaign slogans.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:04 PM
 
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2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

Not necessarily true, I've seen many people receive windfalls without having worked for them.
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:06 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I think most people understand I mean those of working age, between 16 and 65 years old.
I was working for my father when I was 12 and he paid me. I plan to be working long after 65. Who says I have to retire at a certain age?
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:07 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Not necessarily true, I've seen many people receive windfalls without having worked for them.
Someone worked for the money in the windfall.
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Old 03-03-2012, 01:37 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I would say that these sentences need to be read and thought out by every voter in our nation at least once a day. Try them out for veracity.


These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read:
Unfortunately, most voters don't know this.

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.

2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.

3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.

4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.

5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them; and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
This logic should have been applied before we started nation-building Iraq and Afghanistan. One of my biggest issues with our government today is this wealth transfer. The magnitude and the purpose - how do we explain this to our descendents?
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