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Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey
I've watched a few episodes of Doomsday Preppers, and I'm appalled at the lengths people go to prepare for a catastrophe. Why are people doing this? Are any of you preppers?
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Please do not malign survivalists by referring to them as "preppers."
Preppers are morons, but I am personally very grateful for their stupidity....they will give survivalists a chance to set up and get operational before The Hordesâ„¢ come.
The sacrifice of preppers will not be in vain.
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Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey
What are the chances of an event happening?
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You tell me.
Understand that as survivalists, we are planning for Armageddon, not a damn tornado.
The geologic history shows quite clearly that every ~10,000 years there is a major asteroid impact on Earth. The last such impact took place 12,000 years ago as is responsible for the extinction of all large mammals (giant sloths, giant bears, mastodons, mammoths sabre-tooth tigers et al); the destruction of civilization in North America causing wide-spread death of the population groups living here; and caused major tsunamis in the world's oceans --- what most people erroneously refer to as "Flood Myths."
This asteroid (possibly a comet) was either broken apart by gravitational forces prior to entering the Earth's atmosphere, or broke up upon entering the atmosphere (most likely). The pieces of the asteroid are also responsible for creating the Carolina Bays, and for the destruction of the entire Western Ice Sheet in Antarctica.
Doctor Richard Firestone of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory can tell you more about it.
A repeat occurrence could literally happen any day now, and you're not going to get a lot of warning.
An asteroid of 400 meters or larger could induce a "Nuclear Winter" lasting six months or longer --- the larger the asteroid the longer the Nuclear Winter --- that would choke the food supply or reduce it to nothing.
Mount Pinatubo in the Philippines put more CO2 in the atmosphere than all of humankind during its entire existence. That wasn't a problem. What was a problem was the Sulfur and other particulate matter kicked into the upper atmosphere that caused the average global temperature to drop 1° F for a few years.
And that was a minor eruption in the grand scheme of things.
A larger eruption, up to an including a Toba-like Event, or one or more volcanoes out-gassing for an extended period -- say Pinatuba, Etna and one of the volcanoes on Iceland just starts spewing gases....no eruption....just gases, and it could create a Nuclear Winter.
The other issue would be Electromagnetic Pulse.
Roughly every ~150-200 years the Sun kicks off a massive X-Class Solar Flare accompanied by a proton storm where the protons have an energy greater than 30 MeV (million electron volts).
For those who are hard of hearing or daft, that's an X-Class Flare, not one of the other rinky-dinky flares. These are very powerful X-rays that will punch right through the atmosphere asymmetrically ionizing the atmosphere, and then the protons sail through the big hole unmolested and strike the Earth, creating both a vertical and horizontal field.
That will put most of the entire Northern Hemisphere into the Stone Age, and about 3 Billion people are going to die, and there ain't a damn thing anyone can do about it.
The last such event was 1859 --- the Carrington Event. You are now in a Solar Minimum, and when you come out, there is an high probability that a Carrington Event will occur --- seeing how these super powerful X-Class Flares come in large numbers after the Sun wakes up from its lulling slumber.
Then, of course, there's Nuclear EMP.
The US is a measly 4.5% of the world's population, yet consumes 25% of the world's oil, and 30% of the world's non-oil resources.
You don't have to be a Rhodes Scholar to figure out that if 300 Million of the 1 Billion Indians start living large like Americans, and 300 Million of the 1.5 Billion Chinese start living large like Americans, you have a really serious problem.
30% non-oil resources (US) + 30% non-oil resources (India) + 30% non-oil resources (China) = 90%
So, um, the other 5.9 Billion people on Earth....what do they get? The 10% that's left?
Dream on.
Americans can either voluntarily reduce their locust-Borg-like consumption of everything.....or the rest of the world will tire of the insanity and detonate a couple of 450 kiloton nuclear warheads about 60 miles above the surface......you'll never see it or hear it....but the US -- and parts of Canada and Mexico -- will be instantly relegated to the Stone Age.
Survivalists will survive.....preppers and everyone else will die.
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Originally Posted by knowledgeiskey
A widespread blackout is highly unlikely being that power companies have backup infrastructure in an event of a power outage.
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No, they don't.....and your electrical power grid is woefully antiquated and out-dated.
Last I checked, it would take $3.2 TRILLION to modernize your electrical power grid.
Something tells me you'll never get around to spending the money.
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Originally Posted by Think4Yourself
I do not consider myself a survivalist/prepper because those wackos are almost always planning for the end of the world which is what moves them from sane people following sound disaster preparedness guidelines to mentally ill nutjobs who fervently hope and dream of becoming the next Mad Max.
Rational wiki perfectly describes why survivalist/preppers are nuts and why they're not just normal people dealing logically with fact based risk assessments.
Survivalism - RationalWiki |
Nobody gives a damn what Pukipedia says....least of all me.
Uh, I would be embarrassed to tears to admit I was so pathetic I needed a television show to tell me to keep a flashlight on hand in case of severe weather, tornado or earthquake.
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Originally Posted by Frankie117
People are more willing to help each other out than you might think; diaster can bring people together not separate them into bunkers and constant fighting. There are, however, exceptions to everything (i.e. New Orleans after Katrina).
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Not when Armageddon comes.
Even in the worst natural disaster, people know the rest of the world is still there and help is on the way.
The psychology of Armageddon is very different: the world is gone, and if it isn't, it doesn't matter because no help is coming.
Take the Carrington Event for example. You do understand that no one help will you, right?
It will take everything in their power for the governments of those countries in the Southern Hemisphere to feed and clothe their people, plus attend to their medical needs.
There will be no food to spare--- no clothes to spare -- no medicine to spare.
And none of that matters, because there's no way they can help. There aren't enough aircraft/cargo planes, and not enough ships -- and no one is going to send a ship unless then can send 10,000 troops along with it to protect it....and very few countries have amphibious capabilities.
But if you want to laugh at preppers and make sport of them, have at it....I certainly do.
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
You create a plan first, then once you have a plan, you "prep" in support of your plan. And if your plan doesn't include Collective Security with at least 40 people, then you'll get rolled by The Hordesâ„¢ on your first encounter with them.
And that will be really ugly. In fact, downright fugly.
That's what I like about "preppers" --- they're like post-Apocalyptic Wal-Marts for The Hordesâ„¢.
The Hordesâ„¢ will slaughter the "preppers" and take their preppy things.....which is fine with me, because like I said, survivalists have a plan, it just has to be executed, and the "preppers" will buy time with their lives to ensure the survivalists have sufficient time to get their plan into play.
Surviving....
Mircea
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