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Old 03-16-2012, 01:58 PM
 
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I fail to see how teaching facts is ever a threat to anyone or trumping parental rights. If a school your child goes to has a program you will hear about it and they give you an opt out, but it's really more of a sign that you should be talking to your own kids about this stuff first and not putting it off or trying to keep them ignorant because you prefer them not to know about things for whatever reason. If you want to teach them then do it, there is no danger.
Again, what is so bad about having an opt-in policy like most sane schools? Why do parental rights take a backseat and the state's moral authority trumps the parents? Are you also aware that also may violate a parents' 1st Amendment rigthts, especially if the state is interfering with their constitutionally protected religious beliefs?
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I can't wait to hear the excuses from the left on this one.
No excuses necessary, I think it's a fine idea.
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:00 PM
 
Location: North America
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But if they are under the age of 18 then it is the parent who is responsible, not the state. A 12 year old who has a baby cannot apply for welfare/food stamps. And a grandparent cannot apply for welfare because their kid had a kid.
Actually yes they can apply for any of those programs once they have a child.
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So as the schools take more responsibility to teach the kids about sex and provide contraceptives and at younger ages, could the parents have legal grounds to blame the school for their kid's pregnancy then ?
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Norman, OK
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(a) Opt in should be the way to go.
(b) Why are parents continuing to relinquish their responsibilities to public schools? Sad.
(c) Can I 'opt out' as a taxpayer to funding these free condoms?
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:02 PM
 
Location: North America
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That's what I was about to say. This goes back to again, bailing out someone for their mistakes of not practicing self-control. Lucid is basically saying forget parental rights, the state is supreme.
No i'm not, but thanks for putting words in my mouth .
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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(a) Opt in should be the way to go.
(b) Why are parents continuing to relinquish their responsibilities to public schools? Sad.
(c) Can I 'opt out' as a taxpayer to funding these free condoms?
A) An inconvenience is never opted into.
B) Are they? Stop making things up.
C) Yes. Stop being a tax payer.
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Austin
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It's never been brought up in court but it most likely would win. Very few districts do this anyway so the point is moot. And parental rights do have limits believe it or not.

Parental rights only have limits if you allow them. Believe me, I have seen parents fight hard for the sake of their kids, and if done right, will succeed.
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Parental rights only have limits if you allow them. Believe me, I have seen parents fight hard for the sake of their kids, and if done right, will succeed.
Why is parental right an issue?
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Better to learn self-control so that you dont need taxpayer funded benefits later on, or get STDs. What a radical concept

Liberals don't think for themselves, remember.
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