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Old 03-29-2012, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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“We are here away from our families, and the chapel is the one place that feels like home,” a service member at Camp Marmal told POLITICO. “With the cross on the outside, it is a constant reminder for all of us that Jesus is here for us.”

“Not having it there is really upsetting,” added another. “I walk by the chapel daily on the way to chow and the gym, and seeing the cross is a daily reminder of my faith and what Jesus accomplished for me. It is daily inspiration and motivation for me to acknowledge my faith and stay on the right path.”
These quotations from the cited article make clear exactly why it is so important that the cross not be displayed. The United States government, and the United States Army, are not religious organizations. It is not the government's place to remind our military "that Jesus is here for us".
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:25 AM
 
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It is a religion, It is a secular humanistic belief against the religion of Christianity.
That's funny. If being gay and the gay right's movement is an arm of secular humanism and its assault on Christianity, then how do you reconcile the fact that most gay people are Christians?
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The gay rights movement is not a religion, and has nothing to do with any belief against Christianity.
It is a belief against Christianity. Homosexuality is now being taught in the schools to accept it as natural. It is not!

It is a secular humanistic belief which is enveloping our nation.

One Definition of Religion

4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:30 AM
 
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It is a belief against Christianity. Homosexuality is now being taught in the schools to accept it as natural. It is not!

It is a secular humanistic belief which is enveloping our nation.

One Definition of Religion

4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.

It's not a religion.

You are not born with a religion gene. You are, however, born a homosexual.

Get the difference?

Probably not, the dogma is getting in your way.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:30 AM
 
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That's funny. If being gay and the gay right's movement is an arm of secular humanism and its assault on Christianity, then how do you reconcile the fact that most gay people are Christians?
They do not follow the word of God and the word was made flesh, Jesus, so if they follow Jesus how can they be gay? If they say they are gay , and God says it is a sin, why do they put their gayness higher than God?
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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They do not follow the word of God and the word was made flesh, Jesus, so if they follow Jesus how can they be gay? If they say they are gay , and God says it is a sin, why do they put their gayness higher than God?

Until you display the nail wounds on your hands and feet, the spear wound in your side and the wounds from the crown of thorns, you are in no way a spokesperson for Jesus.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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It is a religion, It is a secular humanistic belief against the religion of Christianity.

Government allows the beliefs of secular humanism in.. they should keep out anything against Christianity.



This is secular humanism.


Secular Humanism - Excluding God from Schools & Society
Secular Humanism is an attempt to function as a civilized society with the exclusion of God and His moral principles. During the last several decades, Humanists have been very successful in propagating their beliefs. Their primary approach is to target the youth through the public school system. Humanist Charles F. Potter writes, "Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism, and every American school is a school of humanism. What can a theistic Sunday school's meeting for an hour once a week and teaching only a fraction of the children do to stem the tide of the five-day program of humanistic teaching?" (Charles F. Potter, "Humanism: A New Religion," 1930)

John J. Dunphy, in his award winning essay, The Humanist (1983), illustrates this strategic focus, "The battle for humankind's future must be waged and won in the public school classroom by teachers who correctly perceive their role as the proselytizers of a new faith: A religion of humanity -- utilizing a classroom instead of a pulpit to carry humanist values into wherever they teach. The classroom must and will become an arena of conflict between the old and the new -- the rotting corpse of Christianity, together with its adjacent evils and misery, and the new faith of humanism."

Is this what's happening? John Dewey, remembered for his efforts in establishing America's current educational systems, was one of the chief signers of the 1933 Humanist Manifesto. It seems the Humanists have been interested in America's education system for nearly a century. They have been absolutely successful in teaching children that God is imaginary and contrary to "science."





Secular Humanism
That's quite a desperate leap. Here, let me try too: When trying to fight against civil rights for black people, some christians used passages in the bible to justify keeping black people as second class citizens.

They also figured since god made white Americans so successful, god obviously wanted black people to not have equal rights. Therefore, christianity is a religion of ignorant racists that are against all forms of equality.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:33 AM
 
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It's not a religion.

You are not born with a religion gene. You are, however, born a homosexual.

Get the difference?

Probably not, the dogma is getting in your way.
No one was born a homosexual. We were all born in sin.. meaning we have the capacity to sin. To overcome sin we are to follow Jesus.

Everyone has the capacity to sin and Jesus is the overcomer of sin. To become an overcomer as Jesus is,we follow him through the Holy Spirit which dwells in his believers.
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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They do not follow the word of God and the word was made flesh, Jesus, so if they follow Jesus how can they be gay?
I'm sure you're prepared to cite us all the statements about homosexuality attributed to Jesus in the Bible.



Oh wait, never mind, I'll do it for you. Here they are:
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Old 03-29-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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No one was born a homosexual. We were all born in sin.. meaning we have the capacity to sin. To overcome sin we are to follow Jesus.

Everyone has the capacity to sin and Jesus is the overcomer of sin. To become an overcomer as Jesus is,we follow him through the Holy Spirit which dwells in his believers.


Yeah, and Zeus commands we burn a lamb at the Acropolis to atone for our sins against Olympus.

What does that have to do with the price of goats in Afghanistan?
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