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Old 04-10-2012, 01:24 AM
 
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The White House on Monday rejected Israeli President Shimon Peres's personal appeal to commute convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard's life sentence.
"Our position hasn't changed," National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor said in an email to Yahoo News. Asked whether the White House had received Peres's written plea to President Barack Obama for clemency, Vietor said he was not sure "but the position is the same."

Obama had rejected a January 2011 request from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to free Pollard, a former U.S. Navy intelligence analyst convicted in 1985 of passing classified information to Israel. Netanyahu's appeal was the first such plea in public, and it drew support from most of Israel's parliament, the Knesset.
White House rejects Peres clemency appeal for Israeli spy Pollard | The Ticket - Yahoo! News



Whoa.
You don't want to make Israel angry.You don't want to see them get angry!!!!
When Israel get angry...Israel smash!!!1
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Old 06-16-2012, 09:17 AM
 
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White House rejects Peres clemency appeal for Israeli spy Pollard | The Ticket - Yahoo! News



Whoa.
You don't want to make Israel angry.You don't want to see them get angry!!!!
When Israel get angry...Israel smash!!!1
Israel wrong to demand release of American traitor - CNN.com

Good commentary from Roland Martin about this. They should just end him now.

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The next time an Israeli official petitions the U.S. government to release American traitor Jonathan Pollard from prison, we should tell our friend and longtime ally in an unequivocal tone: He will die in an American prison, so stop asking!
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:38 AM
 
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I don't know...i'm not so vindictive as to imprison someone for life for a non-violent felony. I think he's done enough time. Revoke his citizenship and send his ass packing. If they want him, let them have him. Nothing is served by keeping him locked up any longer except to make folks feel good about it. It's not like he's a danger to the public or something.

What makes me laugh the most about Pollard is how folks on this board talk about Affirmative Action in respect to minorities, but when you read this story, you just shake your head. No way did the "f*ck up, move up" only apply to Pollard. I'd bet everything i own that this was and IS STILL routine in many agencies.

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Within two months after Pollard was hired, the technical director of NOSIC, Richard Haver, requested that he be terminated.[15] This came after a conversation with the new hire in which Pollard offered to start a back-channel operation with the South African intelligence service and lied about his father's involvement with the CIA.[15] Instead of terminating Pollard, Haver's boss reassigned him to a navy human intelligence (HUMINT) operation, Task Force 168 (TF-168), an office within Naval Intelligence Command (NIC), the headquarters for Navy intelligence operations. This was apparently because Pollard had a friend from graduate school in the South African intelligence service.[15] In the vetting process for this position, Pollard, it was later discovered, lied repeatedly: he denied illegal drug use, claimed his father had been a CIA operative, misrepresented his language abilities and his educational achievements, and claimed to have applied for a commission as officer in the Naval Reserve.[15] A month later Pollard received his SCI clearances and was transferred from NISC to TF-168
While transferring to his new job at TF-168, Pollard again initiated a meeting with someone far up the chain of command, this time with Admiral Sumner Shapiro, Commander, Naval Intelligence Command (CNIC) about an idea he had for TF-168 and South Africa. (The TF-168 group had passed on his ideas). After the meeting, Shapiro immediately ordered that Pollard's security clearances be revoked and that he be reassigned to a non-sensitive position. According to The Washington Post, Shapiro dismissed Pollard as a "kook", saying later, "I wish the hell I'd fired him."[16]
Because of the job transfer, Shapiro's order to remove Pollard's security clearances slipped through the cracks. However, Shapiro's office followed up with a request to TF-168 that Pollard's trustworthiness be investigated by the CIA. The CIA found Pollard to be a risk and recommended that he not be used in any intelligence collection operation. A subsequent polygraph test was inconclusive, although it did prompt Pollard to admit to making false statements to his superiors, prior drug use, and having unauthorized contacts with representatives of foreign governments.[17] The special agent administering the test felt that Pollard, who at times "began shouting and shaking and making gagging sounds as if he were going to vomit," was feigning illness to invalidate the test, and recommended that he not be granted access to highly classified information.[17] Pollard was also required to be evaluated by a psychiatrist.[17]
Pollard's clearance was reduced to Secret.[17] Pollard subsequently filed a grievance and threatened lawsuits to recover his SCI clearance, and subsequently began receiving excellent performance reviews.[18] In 1982, after the psychiatrist concluded Pollard had no mental illness, Pollard's clearance was upgraded to SCI once again. In October 1984, after some reorganization of the navy's intelligence departments, Pollard applied for and was accepted into a position as an analyst for the Naval Intelligence Command
LMAO...Amazing story. You can't make it up.
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:52 AM
 
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I don't know...i'm not so vindictive as to imprison someone for life for a non-violent felony. I think he's done enough time. Revoke his citizenship and send his ass packing. If they want him, let them have him. Nothing is served by keeping him locked up any longer except to make folks feel good about it. It's not like he's a danger to the public or something.

What makes me laugh the most about Pollard is how folks on this board talk about Affirmative Action in respect to minorities, but when you read this story, you just shake your head. No way did the "f*ck up, move up" only apply to Pollard. I'd bet everything i own that this was and IS STILL routine in many agencies.



LMAO...Amazing story. You can't make it up.
Well I would agree if in addition to freeing him they cut all aid to Israel. Now that sounds fair.
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Old 06-16-2012, 12:22 PM
 
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Well I would agree if in addition to freeing him they cut all aid to Israel. Now that sounds fair.
Yea...that would sweeten the pot a whole hell of a lot for me too.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:33 PM
 
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Yea...that would sweeten the pot a whole hell of a lot for me too.
Why should be giving a country money to spy on us. Seems idiotic.
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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Israel continues to be one of our enemies, in certain areas. Thieves of intellectual property and other industrial secrets and processes. Pollard should serve a life term for the damage he did to our nation. Be an American first, not sympathetic to foreign powers. That's something the GOP has never learned. Turncoats. Dishonorable persons, they are.
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Old 06-16-2012, 03:23 PM
 
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I don't know...i'm not so vindictive as to imprison someone for life for a non-violent felony. I think he's done enough time. Revoke his citizenship and send his ass packing. If they want him, let them have him. Nothing is served by keeping him locked up any longer except to make folks feel good about it. It's not like he's a danger to the public or something.

What makes me laugh the most about Pollard is how folks on this board talk about Affirmative Action in respect to minorities, but when you read this story, you just shake your head. No way did the "f*ck up, move up" only apply to Pollard. I'd bet everything i own that this was and IS STILL routine in many agencies.



LMAO...Amazing story. You can't make it up.

If he had been passing information on to Al Qaeda and not the Israeli government would you be singing the same tune?
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:42 PM
 
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If he had been passing information on to Al Qaeda and not the Israeli government would you be singing the same tune?
Depending on what he passed to Al Qaeda. And if we could deport him, probably so.

I'm not an Israel firster. There are a lot of those folks on this board, but i'm not one of them. Sorry.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:05 PM
 
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Thieving traitor. My first choice would be to let him rot in prison.

But if we can use him to our advantage like a piece of meat I say go for it.
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