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You speak only of appropriations bills. This is a fallacy.
A budget is the first step in the process....commonly referred to as a budget resolution. A budget resolution is not the same as an appropriation bill. The House's responsibility is to pass a budget resolution, which sets the aggregate level of spending. It is not binding, but it serves as a blueprint for spending. The appropriations bills, on the whole, are expected to fall within the confines of the blueprint.
The GOP led House has passed a budget resolution every year since 2010 when they took over the House. They upheld their responsibility under the Consitution. Appropriations bills are a completely seperate and highly political issue considering tha AB's are reconciled between both the House and the Senate. The Senate is the reason that a budget has not been signed by the President in over 3 years because they simply refuse to reconcile House-approved spending blueprints, which drive the appropriations bill process.
Incorrect. All 13 appropriation bills combined comprise the federal budget. You need to read Article I, Section 7, Clause 1 of the US Constitution:
Quote:
All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.
All revenue bills are in fact appropriation bills. The very first budget after the 2010 election would have been for FY 2011. Of the 13 appropriation bills the House only introduced and passed 2:
Military Construction and Veterans Affairs and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2011; and
Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2011.
The GOP controlled House did not even bother to introduce the other 11 appropriation bills.
In 2011, the GOP controlled House was suppose to pass the FY 2012 budget, and at least they introduced 10 of the 13 appropriation bills this time, but only passed 6 appropriation bills.
The Senate cannot amend or pass what the House does not send to them. When the House only introduces and passes 2 of the 13 appropriation bills there is not much the Senate can do. It is the constitutional responsibility of the House to pass all 13 appropriation bills. The Senate may then amend the appropriation bills like any other bill, but first it must pass the House.
If the House had passed all 13 appropriation bills and then the Senate refused to either amend or pass those appropriation bills THEN you can blame the Senate. However, if the House does not pass all 13 appropriation bills then the fault lies solely with the House, not the Senate.
The House is not doing their job, and has not done their job for 14 years, regardless of which party controls the House.
Incorrect. All 13 appropriation bills combined comprise the federal budget. You need to read Article I, Section 7, Clause 1 of the US Constitution:
All revenue bills are in fact appropriation bills. The very first budget after the 2010 election would have been for FY 2011. Of the 13 appropriation bills the House only introduced and passed 2:
Military Construction and Veterans Affairs and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2011; and
Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2011.
The GOP controlled House did not even bother to introduce the other 11 appropriation bills.
In 2011, the GOP controlled House was suppose to pass the FY 2012 budget, and at least they introduced 10 of the 13 appropriation bills this time, but only passed 6 appropriation bills.
The Senate cannot amend or pass what the House does not send to them. When the House only introduces and passes 2 of the 13 appropriation bills there is not much the Senate can do. It is the constitutional responsibility of the House to pass all 13 appropriation bills. The Senate may then amend the appropriation bills like any other bill, but first it must pass the House.
If the House had passed all 13 appropriation bills and then the Senate refused to either amend or pass those appropriation bills THEN you can blame the Senate. However, if the House does not pass all 13 appropriation bills then the fault lies solely with the House, not the Senate.
The House is not doing their job, and has not done their job for 14 years, regardless of which party controls the House.
So i guess the Ryan Budget which has passed the house is just imaginary
So i guess the Ryan Budget which has passed the house is just imaginary
Unless you can show me where it passed in the Library of Congress (the only credible source when it concerns budgets or any legislation), yes, it was entirely a figment of your media-driven imagination.
You should always consider the source, and the media is not a good source for any legislative action.
Unless you can show me where it passed in the Library of Congress (the only credible source when it concerns budgets or any legislation), yes, it was entirely a figment of your media-driven imagination.
You should always consider the source, and the media is not a good source for any legislative action.
If it makes you feel better here is the Huff post headlines
So the Ryan budget which passed the house is not a budget ,
i guess those 228 who voted for it and 191 who voted against it were the make believe congress.
And if it was not a budget why would the make believe congress have any votes against it?
Unfortunately dems haven't done anything to improve their standing. Republicans on the other hand have destroyed their opportunity to lead by doing nothing that actually helps America.
Unless you can show me where it passed in the Library of Congress (the only credible source when it concerns budgets or any legislation), yes, it was entirely a figment of your media-driven imagination.
You should always consider the source, and the media is not a good source for any legislative action.
From the house of representives web site on roll call votes>
H.CON.RES.112
Latest Title: Establishing the budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2013 and setting forth appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2014 through 2022.
Sponsor: Rep Ryan, Paul [WI-1] (introduced 3/23/2012) Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills:H.CON.RES.34, H.RES.597, S.CON.RES.37, S.CON.RES.40, S.CON.RES.41
Latest Major Action: 4/16/2012 Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 354.
House Reports: 112-421
MarH CON RES 112 On Agreeing to the ResolutionPEstablishing the budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2013 and setting forth appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2014 through 2022
So the Ryan budget which passed the house is not a budget ,
i guess those 228 who voted for it and 191 who voted against it were the make believe congress.
And if it was not a budget why would the make believe congress have any votes against it?
Did you see any bill number in that Huffington Post article? Did you look at when the appropriation bills were actually passed by the House?
Hint: None of the 13 appropriation bills have even been introduced by the GOP, much less passed the House.
When the GOP controlled House actually passes the 13 appropriation bills, and the Senate fails to do so, then and only then can the Senate be blamed. However, if the GOP controlled House does not pass all 13 appropriation bills (which I think is far more likely), then only the House is to blame, not the Senate.
From the house of representives web site on roll call votes>
H.CON.RES.112
Latest Title: Establishing the budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2013 and setting forth appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2014 through 2022.
Sponsor: Rep Ryan, Paul [WI-1] (introduced 3/23/2012) Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills:H.CON.RES.34, H.RES.597, S.CON.RES.37, S.CON.RES.40, S.CON.RES.41
Latest Major Action: 4/16/2012 Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under General Orders. Calendar No. 354.
House Reports: 112-421
MarH CON RES 112 On Agreeing to the ResolutionPEstablishing the budget for the United States Government for fiscal year 2013 and setting forth appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2014 through 2022
The source is the clerk of the house of Representatives
Have you read the bill? It has absolutely nothing to do with appropriations. It is a "pie-in-the-sky" bill that establishes the budetary rules from 2014 through 2022. The bill concerns "recommended" budgetary levels over the next decade (after FY 2013). It is NOT the federal budget for FY 2013.
At least you pulled the information from the Library of Congress, I give you credit for that much. That is why you should not be using the media as a source. They are completely ignorant on the subject and would not know what a budget looks like if it hit them in the face.
Anything to add, or you being the SpElLiNg PoLiCe?
Democrat Party is well-known epithet used by right-wingers in place of the Democratic Party. It's not a spelling error, as it was intended.
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