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Old 05-03-2012, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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That's not a good analogy as just because a state is more populated, doesn't automatically mean it's going to create more jobs, or have a better working environment for a company to open shop there.
For example the top 5 worst states for job growth, only one, Alaska, is on the list and is also a low populated state. The rest of them are not, most notably Wisconsin which is the worst, however is up there as one of the more populated states.
Why are you trying to assert that a state like California, with the nearly meaningless 2nd high est job creation number, counters the original ranking of California as last place for a state to do business and create jobs?
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:13 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I know that list is nonsense because New Jersey is dead-last in measurements of pro-business environments.
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:15 PM
 
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Why are you trying to assert that a state like California, with the nearly meaningless 2nd high est job creation number, counters the original ranking of California as last place for a state to do business and create jobs?
That doesn't make sense. The real numbers are what it all comes down to, what are the actual jobs being created, not what someone says in a theoretical question of which state should be the best to create them.
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Yea, good for business, but horrible places to live with the exception of Indiana.

My own state aint that great for business supposedly, despite being a RTW state. But other things make up for that.
I'm vacationing in your state this year.
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:19 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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Can't wait to see what the progressive liberals come with to counter these statistics....

Let's guess shall we?

~ But those jobs are all menial basic wage

~ They are lousy places to live

~ Those are all red collar bible thumping redneck states

~ But the blue states have higher IQ's
Well, Austin seems to be the ONLY major Texas city that most progressive transplants find to be "livable".
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:19 PM
 
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The San Francisco and San Jose metro areas in California are doing quite well in terms of job growth, according to this right-leaning source:

Large Cities Rankings - 2012 Best Cities for Job Growth | Newgeography.com

New York City is doing well too. Low taxes are nice, but they're not a panacea for job growth.
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:22 PM
 
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I'm vacationing in your state this year.
My dad did that back in 1969...and he never looked back.
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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The source is an ultra-right wing propaganda site and has no credibility. Wisconsin is dead last in the nation for job creation. They have been losing jobs month after month from Walker's ultra right wing agenda.
The source isn't Newsmax. The source is Chief Executive Magazine who has been reporting on this for years (even through the Bush administration). Newsmax is just reporting what Chief Executive Magazine says.

Sorry, I should have posted that link, too.

"California’s enduring place of perpetual decline continues in this year’s ranking. Once the most attractive business environment, the Golden State appears to slip deeper into the ninth circle of business hell. The economy, which used to outperform the rest of the country, now substantially underperforms. And its status as the most ruinously contentious place to operate remains undisturbed in eight years. Its unemployment rate, at 10.9 percent, is higher than every other state except Nevada and Rhode Island. With 12 percent of America’s population, California has one-third of the nation’s welfare recipients. Each year, the evidence that businesses are leaving California or avoid locating there because of the high cost of doing business due to excessive state taxes and stringent regulations, grows. (See “Eastward Ho!”) According to Spectrum Locations Consultants, 254 California companies moved some or all of their work and jobs out of state in 2011, an increase of 26 percent over the previous year and five times as many as in 2009."

Another Triumph for Texas: Best/Worst States for Business 2012 | ChiefExecutive.net | Chief Executive Magazine
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Central Texas
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"Best and Worst States To Do Business and Create Jobs"

Theories and statistics may be relevant for today, but not guaranteed accurate for a month from now or 5 years from now. Businesspersons shouldn't be making decisions based on such short-term information.
If you look at the data at the base of this report (a CEO survey), California has been at the bottom of the rankings for many years. Hardly short term information.

The items that businesses like or dislike concerning business growth - like taxes and the regulatory climate, and a qualified workforce, DO NOT change quickly.

There is no way on earth that California's rankings on a survey like this could change quickly.
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Old 05-03-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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Actually I can tell you alot fo texas that a person from Arizona would perhaps like;but they are not the most popular as far as people moving here. I think perhaps demograhics of population movement says more than anything .
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