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Old 05-17-2012, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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Miles made a big mistake by running from the police, especially after they identified themselves.

Officers won't be charged in Jordan Miles incident - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Miles made a big mistake by running from the police, especially after they identified themselves.

Officers won't be charged in Jordan Miles incident - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Great news. Good for Pittsburgh
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:51 AM
 
Location: USA
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The kid who was beaten was an honor student. He seemed like a respectable kid. Does anybody know his past criminal record?

Police can not simply arrest anybody they want. There has to be reasonable cause.
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Old 05-17-2012, 06:55 AM
 
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The kid who was beaten was an honor student. He seemed like a respectable kid. Does anybody know his past criminal record?

Police can not simply arrest anybody they want. There has to be reasonable cause.
Well, he was told to stop by police and he ran, police pursued him. What more can be said.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:02 AM
 
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Well, he was told to stop by police and he ran, police pursued him. What more can be said.
It still doesn't justify the beating.

Also, you have to understand some of what goes on in inner cities in this country. The police, especially in some of those precincts, are not the most "honorable" citizens to have to deal with. If you've experienced police brutality or criminal police behavior, then your not likely to trust the police.

However, running does not justify a beating. If he was fighting with the police, that's a different story. I read most of the article but didn't see on 1st glance where he was fighting with the police.

That is the only thing that justifies "force" from the police. The police can't beat a guy just because he made them run a little bit.

Especially when WE are the ones paying their salaries.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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It still doesn't justify the beating.

Also, you have to understand some of what goes on in inner cities in this country. The police, especially in some of those precincts, are not the most "honorable" citizens to have to deal with. If you've experienced police brutality or criminal police behavior, then your not likely to trust the police.

However, running does not justify a beating. If he was fighting with the police, that's a different story. I read most of the article but didn't see on 1st glance where he was fighting with the police.

That is the only thing that justifies "force" from the police. The police can't beat a guy just because he made them run a little bit.

Especially when WE are the ones paying their salaries.
I agree police are overzealous sometimes, but my understanding is, he was resisting and even said ''you're not taking me to jail''. Since I live near the area this took place, I have been following this case from the beginning. Had he not run, this would not be an issue.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:16 AM
 
Location: USA
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I agree police are overzealous sometimes, but my understanding is, he was resisting and even said ''you're not taking me to jail''. Since I live near the area this took place, I have been following this case from the beginning. Had he not run, this would not be an issue.
I've got you. Do you know what all he did to resist arrest? The only reason I'm asking is because typically if the police might be at fault for obsessive force, they'll say the suspect was "resisting arrest." That term can be debated.

Is the suspect resisting arrest from shielding himself from being beaten? Was the suspect aggressively attacking officers or defending himself? Is trying to escape the beating resisting arrest?

I'm just trying to be objective in the case. Another question I have to ask, is if there were any witnesses to the event.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:39 AM
 
Location: SoCal/PHX/HHI
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The kid who was beaten was an honor student. He seemed like a respectable kid. Does anybody know his past criminal record?

Police can not simply arrest anybody they want. There has to be reasonable cause.
I think you've got reasonable suspicion and probable cause combined here. Probable cause is the term you're looking for.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I agree police are overzealous sometimes, but my understanding is, he was resisting and even said ''you're not taking me to jail''. Since I live near the area this took place, I have been following this case from the beginning. Had he not run, this would not be an issue.
That would make for some pathetic police officers for taking this issue where it went.
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:15 AM
 
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If these three cops cannot take down one HS kid without beating him this badly then they need a new job. Sure he ran but still they were undercover. That's not a crime nor does it deserve this kind of a beating. Just another case of walking around with a refreshment in your pocket.
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