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Maybe he shouldve just pulled an Elizabeth Warren and said "I have _____ which is a physical feature of blacks" and I was told by my great, great grand dad that I am 1/32 black."
Maybe he shouldve just pulled an Elizabeth Warren and said "I have _____ which is a physical feature of blacks" and I was told by my great, great grand dad that I am 1/32 black."
Good job. I'm sure there are thousands more hidden away out there. Does Forest Lake Country Club give out a scholarship to members' kids??? If so, white only, maybe?
Last edited by buzzards27; 06-15-2012 at 03:40 PM..
Good job. I'm sure there are thousands more hidden away put there. Does Forest Lake Country Club give out a scholarship to members' kids??? If so, white only, maybe?
I'm starting to realize that a lot of ignorance on here is self-imposed.
They are a private institution and, while their decision was distasteful and racist, it is their money and their scholarship, and their right who to give it to in the first place.........
...... but once they had given it to this kid they shouldn't have taken it back, and further, he shouldn't have given it back - not just to keep the money, but, as a matter of ethics.
To put it more broadly, people creating a scholarship for african-americans only (or any other race, for that matter) are racists, but, they are racists doing something that doesn't hurt anyone and it is better for society to let them go about their business because if we said, "no, you can't endow that" to them they probably wouldn't create a scholarship for anyone at all, and it's not like they're taking anything away from anyone. No one is hurt.
When they took back a scholarship they have already given out away on the basis of race, they crossed the "do no harm" line and "don't discriminate against a person on the basis of their race" lines in a really big way.
I take it you didn't read the article. The thread title is a lie. The white kid was not forced, or even asked, to give back the scholarship. The white kid voluntarily gave back the award.
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Originally Posted by ALackOfCreativity
They are a private institution and, while their decision was distasteful and racist, it is their money and their scholarship, and their right who to give it to in the first place.........
...... but once they had given it to this kid they shouldn't have taken it back, and further, he shouldn't have given it back - not just to keep the money, but, as a matter of ethics.
To put it more broadly, people creating a scholarship for african-americans only (or any other race, for that matter) are racists, but, they are racists doing something that doesn't hurt anyone and it is better for society to let them go about their business because if we said, "no, you can't endow that" to them they probably wouldn't create a scholarship for anyone at all, and it's not like they're taking anything away from anyone. No one is hurt.
When they took back a scholarship they have already given out away on the basis of race, they crossed the "do no harm" line and "don't discriminate against a person on the basis of their race" lines in a really big way.
Last edited by buzzards27; 06-15-2012 at 08:21 PM..
I take it you didn't read the article. The thread title is a lie. The white kid was not forced, or even asked, to give back the scholarship. The white voluntarily gave back the award.
"Jeffrey, who has a 4.25 cumulative grade-point average, applied for 27 scholarships and won three others in addition to the award from the Martin Luther King Senior Citizens Club, which only specified that African Americans were “encouraged to apply,” the newspaper reported. School counselors were informed that the scholarship was for black students. The club intends to change the language on next year’s application to clarify who is eligible, according to the Press-Enterprise"
On closer reading, it doesn't explicitly say he was asked, I just inferred that, with a nonzero probability of being incorrect, from the fact that the school was told it was supposed to be black-only after he got it and that they were updating the language. So I guess it doesn't explicitly say whether he was asked or spontaneously decided to give it back unprompted when he realized it, although I'd be more than willing to bet even money that him beings asked was how it went down from what is said in the article. If he wasn't asked, then no harm, no foul.
"Jeffrey, who has a 4.25 cumulative grade-point average, applied for 27 scholarships and won three others in addition to the award from the Martin Luther King Senior Citizens Club, which only specified that African Americans were “encouraged to apply,” the newspaper reported. School counselors were informed that the scholarship was for black students. The club intends to change the language on next year’s application to clarify who is eligible, according to the Press-Enterprise"
On closer reading, it doesn't explicitly say he was asked, I just inferred that, with a nonzero probability of being incorrect, from the fact that the school was told it was supposed to be black-only after he got it and that they were updating the language. So I guess it doesn't explicitly say whether he was asked or spontaneously decided to give it back unprompted when he realized it, although I'd be more than willing to bet even money that him beings asked was how it went down from what is said in the article. If he wasn't asked, then no harm, no foul.
There are several articles out there on the story. The white kid, after discussing with his dad, felt it was better if a black lid got the award. Nobody from the scholarship committee ever even discussed it with him before he returned it.
Someone was being "creative" with the thread title, maybe hoping to create white outrage????
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