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BINGO, thats why the additional readers ARENT OVERED BY THIS CONTRACT. You are now posting data which says your wrong
I'm talking about your math. How do you get $94/year for a Kindle that's delivered in Year 5. You don't. You're not even costing correctly.
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I know, I quoted it NUMEROUS times to prove you guys are wrong. Again, you are now posting data which says your wrong AGAIN..
Sure it does, if each one HAS A COST TO THEM not IN THIS BUDGET. It wouldnt say indefinite quantity at a TOTAL COST of $16,500,00 of them. Again, you are posting data to prove you are wrong.
What if they order 16,500,000 of them, whats the cost per unit? Do you really think it will be $1 per kindle with support contracts included?
How many times do I have to say this: THIS. IS. NOT. THE. CONTRACT!
It's the paperwork justifying the contract. We don't know what # of Kindles will be ordered. What we do know is if all the Kindles that they are requesting get delivered, it will end up being a 16.5M contract.
If the contract was for 2500 Kindles this J&A would say the order is for 2500 Kindles. It wouldn't say it's approximately 2500 immediately, and it wouldn't mention that they need more than that. It would say flatly: This order is for 2500 Kindles.
It's probably unlimited because the state department and Hillary are running Iraq now. She is her own little warlord over there. They gotta pay for "stuff" somehow.
First of all what the hell do they even need a Kindle for? Reading govt documents my arse. They got PC's for that. I'm sure most of em if they ever find their way into the hands of these flunkies will just be used to play games and check the weather or post some shots to facebook of their location paid for by the taxpayers or playing angry bird.
I'm talking about your math. How do you get $94/year for a Kindle that's delivered in Year 5. You don't. You're not even costing correctly.
The fact that your questioning the math on fugures YOU used, has me laughing..
You said 35,000 units, cost is $16,500,000, 5 year contract
$94.25 per unit / year
Now you are even questioning figures you posted
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How many times do I have to say this: THIS. IS. NOT. THE. CONTRACT!
I agree, its a RFP, which leads to a contract.
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It's the paperwork justifying the contract. We don't know what # of Kindles will be ordered. What we do know is if all the Kindles that they are requesting get delivered, it will end up being a 16.5M contract.
We know that 2,500 kindles will be ordered at a $16,500,000 cost, THATS IT. There is nothing at all to show that other kindles will be provided at no additional charge, and you yourself, is questioning the figures you posted above.
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If the contract was for 2500 Kindles this J&A would say the order is for 2500 Kindles. It wouldn't say it's approximately 2500 immediately, and it wouldn't mention that they need more than that. It would say flatly: This order is for 2500 Kindles.
You just said its a justification for a contract, not a contract, so there would be no need to state the exact amount until its computed. But 2,500 kindles is no where close to the 35,000 kindles you claimed would be ultimately ordered.
Again, why stop at 35,000 kindles? If there is no additiional cost for additional Kindles, why not order 10 BILLION of them?
It's probably unlimited because the state department and Hillary are running Iraq now. She is her own little warlord over there. They gotta pay for "stuff" somehow.
Its unlimited because Amazon will produce whatever quantity you want if you are willing to pay EXTRA..
Its like going to mcDonalds and they agree to sell you an unlimited number of Big Macs for $3.99 each.. They will just keep producing them as long as your paying for them.
They wont however produce an unlimited number of Big Macs for $16 Million, but thats what these people are trying to say is being done here with Kindles
Its unlimited because Amazon will produce whatever quantity you want if you are willing to pay EXTRA..
Its like going to mcDonalds and they agree to sell you an unlimited number of Big Macs for $3.99.. They will just keep producing them as long as your paying for them.
They wont however write an unlimited number of Big Macs for $16 Million, but thats what these people are trying to say is being done here with Kindles
Ridiculous
I think the big problem is they are paying for these things and they don't even need em to begin with. Show me a reason why these folks need a stupid kindle?? They are in the state dept and I'm sure all have a laptop and cell phone provided by the govt. How the hell is a kindle gonna help them do their job better? If they want to read books buy one on their own. Not like they aren't making the money to afford one.
Look... we already know the cost per unit for the Kindles. It is 10% off of retail, or $170. Multiplied by 2500, the total cost for the Kindles is $425,000.
Period. That's it. That's the total cost for these 2,500 Kindles. $425K. It is almost certain that any additional Kindles will be procured the exact same way... i.e. as a straightforward hardware purchase.
The rest of the proposed contract is not for hardware. It has nothing to do with hardware. It has entirely to do with the menu of services included in the RFP... to include costs associated with development, implementation, management, maintenance and ongoing operations. To consider any of those according to a "per Kindle cost" is frankly stupid, and the fact that pghquest is still trying to wrap his head around some sort of "unit cost" is simply a symptom of the complete cluelessness which had characterized his every post in this thread.
Still waiting for my apology. Guess you're not man enough..
You're not getting one. And it has nothing to do with how much a man I am. It has to do with the fact that rather than being deserving of an apology, you are deserving only of further mockery and disdain.
Look... we already know the cost per unit for the Kindles. it is 10% off of retail, or $170. Multiplied by 2500, the total cost for the Kindles is $425,000.
Period. That's it. That's the total cost for these 2,500 Kindles. $425K. It is almost certain that any additional Kindles will be procured the exact same way... i.e. as a straightforward hardware purchase.
The rest of the proposed contract is not for hardware. It has nothing to do with hardware. It has entirely to do with the menu of services included in the RFP... to include costs associated with development, implementation, management, maintenance and ongoing operations. To consider any of those as according to a "per Kindle cost" is frankly stupid, and the fact that pghquest is still trying to wrap his head around some sort of "unit cost" is simply a symptom of the complete cluelessness which had characterized his every post in this thread.
Look, thats EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING.. But you and other kooks here continue to call me a lier and then post EXACTLY what I've said.
Because ITS OTHER PEOPLE here saying its for an unlimited number of kindles, and I'M THE ONE POINTING OUT THAT ITS NOT, AND THE COST IS FOR SERVICES.
And rather than you apologize to me for lying about my position, you go on and lie about it again. Whats the matter, not man enough to admit I was correct, but you are man enough to post that I'm correct.
pathetic
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You're not getting one. And it has nothing to do with how much a man I am. It has to do with the fact that rather than being deserving of an apology, you are deserving only of further mockery and disdain.
That says more about your character than it does mine, especially since you are mocking me for saying what you just said..
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Do you really think it will be $1 per kindle with support contracts included?
