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"I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally," Ronald Reagan said in 1984.
As a liberal, this amnesty thing bugs the hell out of me too. But it is a complex deal. That's for sure.
Reagan was governor of California. He know how impossible it was going to be to deport millions of people, especially when their employers want them here too.
"I believe in the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here, even though sometime back they may have entered illegally," Ronald Reagan said in 1984.
You're cherry picking, Reagan never would have signed it and never would have passed though Congress without the other provisions which included increased illegal immigration enforcement and tougher law on employers. It was supposed to solve the illegal immigration issue once and for all and as history has shown that didn't happen. The amnesty was supposed to be one time deal and increased enforcement was to prevent future issues like we have right now, if the bill had worked as intended Obama wouldn't have anyone to grant amnesty too.
You're cherry picking, Reagan never would have signed it and never would have passed though Congress without the other provisions which included increased illegal immigration enforcement and tougher law on employers. It was supposed to solve the illegal immigration issue once and for all and as history has shown that didn't happen. The amnesty was supposed to be one time deal and increased enforcement was to prevent future issues like we have right now, if the bill had worked as intended Obama wouldn't have anyone to grant amnesty too.
Cherry picking? Im, pointing out hypocrisy. Plain and simple.
Cherry picking? Im, pointing out hypocrisy. Plain and simple.
No you're trying to compare apples to oranges. First and foremost amnesty was granted with a bipartisan effort from Congress (you know those people that represent us) and signed by President Reagan.
Obama on the other hand has done this by executive order in defiance of Congress.
Understand the difference?
What happened under Reagan is vastly different than what is being done under Obama primarily because of the things I've already outlined. The reason you won't get support from Conservatives for this now is because granting amnesty incrased the illegal immigrants in this country......
You're cherry picking, Reagan never would have signed it and never would have passed though Congress without the other provisions which included increased illegal immigration enforcement and tougher law on employers. It was supposed to solve the illegal immigration issue once and for all and as history has shown that didn't happen. The amnesty was supposed to be one time deal and increased enforcement was to prevent future issues like we have right now, if the bill had worked as intended Obama wouldn't have anyone to grant amnesty too.
That is a good point and shows what a failure our so called leaders are at solving any problem. I just saw Mittens on TV talking about the latest immigration policy from Obama. And of course he went into the same old BS we have been hearing for years. You know the routine " we must secure our borders and really go after employers that hire them". Are we stupid? both parties and their Presidents have been chirping that nonsense for over 30 years. Would anyone with a ounce of sense really think that Mittens/Obama or either party is really going to secure the border?
I would bet that another 30 years will go by and this will still be a issue.
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