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Old 06-25-2012, 10:20 AM
 
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Who would pay for that "free" healthcare?
Hmmm .. who pays for all the negative effects of society's lack of health care?

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And the usual liberal wet dream is taking money from defense and spend it on social engineering.......which never works.
Well, we don't know that, do we? It's never been tried.
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Follow the Iceland example of liberty? That country is in worse shape than the U.S. They've had numerous government changes in the last 3 years, they are bankrupt, their money is worthless. They owe the British and Dutch billions of dollars and are being sued in European courts.
When I was forced to live there for a year, the Parliment was controlled by communists and there wasn't much 'liberty' happening.
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:04 PM
 
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Hmmm .. who pays for all the negative effects of society's lack of health care?

Well, we don't know that, do we? It's never been tried.
The Feds should not be in the health insurance business. Look to Medicare/Medicaid for a prime example.

Its tried constantly, the stimulus was a large example of a massive failure of social engineering.
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:09 PM
 
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The real fact of the matter if we held people to breaking finacial laws then we have alot of normal citizens who are co-conspitators with signed documents as evidence.
Screw these excuses. Normal citizens do not fall under the regulations of Sarbanes/Oxley. I completely dismiss your argument as being any sort of rationalization here.

Normal citizens were not selling people investments that were known to be bad, as good, and then betting they would fail.
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Old 06-25-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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The govt and bansksters are in bed together. Letting the looting continue is unsustainable. Iceland did the right thing by dealing with it up front and early. Now they have moved on. One way or the other "reality" sets in.

Actions determine the form that occurs when "unsustainable" reaches critical or whether the "unsustainable" continues.
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Old 06-25-2012, 03:21 PM
 
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Follow the Iceland example of liberty? That country is in worse shape than the U.S. They've had numerous government changes in the last 3 years, they are bankrupt, their money is worthless. They owe the British and Dutch billions of dollars and are being sued in European courts.
When I was forced to live there for a year, the Parliment was controlled by communists and there wasn't much 'liberty' happening.
You are clueless. Iceland came out of the hard times better than any EU country. Because they protected their citizens rather than the bankers who gambled with their money.
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Old 06-25-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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Follow the Iceland example of liberty? That country is in worse shape than the U.S. They've had numerous government changes in the last 3 years, they are bankrupt, their money is worthless. They owe the British and Dutch billions of dollars and are being sued in European courts.
When I was forced to live there for a year, the Parliment was controlled by communists and there wasn't much 'liberty' happening.
You are clueless. Iceland came out of the hard times better than any EU country. Because they protected their citizens rather than the bankers who gambled with their money.

The Icelandic Post-crisis Miracle - NYTimes.com
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