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Old 07-18-2012, 08:08 PM
 
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A society can only be judged by how well it treats it's lowest members. So IF my taxes are helping, fine.

If we have a society of super rich and then a bunch of poor people who can not afford health care for their children, how are those chidlren supposed to succeed?
The poor have health care for their children. The poor get medicaid. I agree with your first sentence. I have a son that is a disabled adult. Unable to work or ever take care of himself. Why is it every time I turn around they are cutting services for the disable or trying to? It is done for the increasing number of able bodied people taking unemployment to the end of 99 weeks, having five kids when they can barely afford 2, many faking a disability and wanting all the entitlements the government can give them. They are not the least of us, they just want to be. Where does this leave the really helpless? I think society has forgotten who that really is.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:29 PM
 
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Why aren't there many politically conservative artists, even less so, neoconservative artists? (That includes musicians, fiction movie makers, poets, video game designers, etc.)
Conservatives tend to be fairly prude and traditional. Creativity isn't really in their blood.

Their thought process is all black and white.
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Old 07-18-2012, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Eugenius
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I had conservative musician friends, they would go to open mics and sing conservative songs they had written. They were really good musicians and people would really get into the songs, then they'd start listening and processing the lyrics and got very offended. My friends did it to antagonize people and laughed about it afterwards. They also wondered why there were so few creative conservative people or why conservative views were not as well regarded as the liberal views in places like open mics.
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Old 07-18-2012, 10:09 PM
 
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I had conservative musician friends, they would go to open mics and sing conservative songs they had written. They were really good musicians and people would really get into the songs, then they'd start listening and processing the lyrics and got very offended. My friends did it to antagonize people and laughed about it afterwards. They also wondered why there were so few creative conservative people or why conservative views were not as well regarded as the liberal views in places like open mics.
what genre of music was it?
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:25 PM
 
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The fact that conservatives think of Hollywood and mathmaticians/scientists when you ask about artists tells you how little some conservatives know about art. I think a big reason is that conservatives tend to value professions that are lucrative, and stable. The world of art is neither for most artists.
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Houston
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The fact is the term "starving artists" does not exist for no reason. Most artists are people incapable of holding a real job.
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:33 PM
 
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The fact is the term "starving artists" does not exist for no reason. Most artists are people incapable of holding a real job.
You don't value the work of artists? I guess this is another explanation
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:35 PM
 
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The fact that conservatives think of Hollywood and mathmaticians/scientists when you ask about artists tells you how little some conservatives know about art. I think a big reason is that conservatives tend to value professions that are lucrative, and stable. The world of art is neither for most artists.
I think a lot of conservatives only care about money. I know someone who is going into accounting because it pays good money. Accounting is soooooo boring. I don't care how much money it pays. I am not doing that for the rest of my life. I would rather do what I enjoy for half the money than hate my job and not want to wake up in the morning. I want a job where I am excited to go to work which would make me more productive and a better employee.
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:36 PM
 
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I think a lot of conservatives only care about money. I know someone who is going into accounting because it pays good money. Accounting is soooooo boring. I don't care how much money it pays. I am not doing that for the rest of my life. I would rather do what I enjoy for half the money than hate my job and not want to wake up in the morning. I want a job where I am excited to go to work which would make me more productive and a better employee.
If you are exceptional in your field, regardless of the field, you will probably do well economically. But I hear what are saying, you could be a mediocre accountant and make a decent living, but if you are a mediocre artist you probably will struggle.
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Old 07-18-2012, 11:41 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Artists tend to see what is, not what the Konservatives would like them to believe.
Just the opposite (as is typical with liberals, getting things backwards and wrong). Artists tend to NOT see the real world, they see it as they want it to be, or as they see it though their particular vision. They generally don't see the real world.
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